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Murphy
Conspiracy Theorist:
The advantage for vanilla mortals is free will, the strength of that will is another matter. Someone like Marcone is an outlier.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 09, 2020, 01:50:25 PM ---The advantage for vanilla mortals is free will, the strength of that will is another matter. Someone like Marcone is an outlier.
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Marcone is a natural leader, he has a level of charisma, people will follow him. He is also ruthless, and ambitious, along with a keen intelligence has allowed him to take over the crime territory in Chicago and made him a valued member of the Accords. Strength of will carries him a long way because he motivates others by that will.
Murphy is none of those things, at best she is a so so leader, her time trying to head the Justice League was proof of that. Murphy is a good and cunning fighter, but she doesn't inspire or do much to motivate others, she is a soldier, not a general. She exercises her free will to the full extent, she is very strong in that aspect, however her physical strength has always had limits. She has always seemingly comes out on top physically because she has used her intelligence and bravery to best advantage. But when she makes a mistake, like she did up against Nic, she was toast.
huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 09, 2020, 10:56:54 AM --- Or sheer will power, the force advantage Harry seems to have over most of his opponents. In Murphy's case, she did a ten second power move, surprised her opponent, who really didn't fight back and won. However the rest of the time she was mostly moving on gut power, in a fight, especially hand to hand to the death, gut power and skill will only take her so far, her unhealed body will fail at some point.
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In my opinion, if Murphy does not know what she is doing, it really does not matter whether she is injured or not. Most if not all of her future opponents would have so much power advantage over her making any decrease or increase cause by her injury irrelevant if it really come to a fair fight. The keyword here being "Fair"
But it is different if she know what she is doing. She is the one who shoot Maeve dead. How could she do it? Because Mab help to untie her. The Question is: why Murphy? Why not untie another person?
There is a time and place for everything and for anyone. In my opinion, , Murphy's main advantage is her seemingly unthreatening nature. She is a vanilla. She is tiny and now she is injured to boot. In the eyes of most supernatural powers, she is no more remarkable than a pebble on the road. The more powerful the being is, the more they would likely to ignore someone like Murphy.
In gaming terms, Murphy most likely have some kind of stealth bonus.
Probably why Mab choose to free her in CD, because Maeve probably would have notice if Mab try to free someone else, like fix for example. Murphy are likely to be dismissed out of hand, because in the mind of the powerful she couldn't have done anything even if she is freed.
Mira:
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Probably why Mab choose to free her in CD, because Maeve probably would have notice if Mab try to free someone else, like fix for example. Murphy are likely to be dismissed out of hand, because in the mind of the powerful she couldn't have done anything even if she is freed.
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All of that, plus Murphy still had a gun on her, and she is trained in "shoot to kill." However none of it would have been possible if Mab hadn't freed her in the first place.
--- Quote ---In my opinion, if Murphy does not know what she is doing, it really does not matter whether she is injured or not. Most if not all of her future opponents would have so much power advantage over her making any decrease or increase cause by her injury irrelevant if it really come to a fair fight. The keyword here being "Fair"
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I doubt the fights in the next book are going to be fair.
--- Quote ---There is a time and place for everything and for anyone. In my opinion, , Murphy's main advantage is her seemingly unthreatening nature. She is a vanilla. She is tiny and now she is injured to boot. In the eyes of most supernatural powers, she is no more remarkable than a pebble on the road. The more powerful the being is, the more they would likely to ignore someone like Murphy.
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But in the mayhem of the battle field?
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 10, 2020, 05:49:13 AM ---But in the mayhem of the battle field?
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Martin got a whole bit in Changes about how looking like you're not threatening in the middle of a big fight with obvious threats running around is it's own form of armour, so yes the non-threatening bit still applies.
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