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Raith Reservoir [Peace Talks Spoilers]
Grifter:
--- Quote from: vultur on July 30, 2020, 12:50:52 AM ---The problem is that if this is possible - if a White Court Vampire can feed on energy stored in an inanimate object - then a wizard could just as easily fill up that object with energy drawn from a spell.
Harry uses "life force" energy in his spells too, he can even fuel them with emotions. It's the same energy. So the only way to keep this from happening, IMO, is if the Hunger demon is incapable of feeding on anything except a human or near-human (or at least sentient) being.
Sure, a WCV couldn't fill up the item itself without feeding (unless it was also a spellcaster). But that wouldn't keep Harry from being able to fill up such an item, if it could exist.
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I'm not saying they can consume just any spiritual energy. I think they have a method that works for them, and that's what would have to be done to make the energy compatible. I think we're both in agreement that them being able to consume just any spiritual energy doesn't make sense.
KurtinStGeorge:
I don't know if anyone has stated this explicitly, but maybe it would be possible for a wizard to create some kind of spiritual tank to hold life force energy that a White Court vampire could partake from, but the only way to make it viable would be for the wizard to take another person's life force energy to make it work, that nothing else would do. So the guilt of taking this energy would be once removed from the vampire to the wizard, but wouldn't really absolve either party of doing this.
I'd probably have to add that the difficulty to the wizard of taking a small amount of life energy would make it uneconomical. Too much effort for too little return so they would in effect have to really drain if not always kill the victim. So maybe it would work but be just as bad.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Grifter on July 30, 2020, 02:20:28 AM ---I'm not saying they can consume just any spiritual energy. I think they have a method that works for them, and that's what would have to be done to make the energy compatible. I think we're both in agreement that them being able to consume just any spiritual energy doesn't make sense.
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OK.
I guess I just think that if they could feed on their own form of energy stored in an item, that would probably make them able to feed on "just any spiritual energy" indirectly, with help from a wizard (who could use thaumaturgy to move energy and transform the energy to the right form).
I mean, we don't know about DV magic-physics to say that for sure, but that seems to be how wizard magic is described - it's all about moving energy around (Harry says that this is the core principle of Eb's textbook "Elementary Magic").
For it not to be "cheatable" in this way, I think White Court Hunger has to be fundamentally different from wizard magic and actually require feeding on a living spirit. Once you add the ability to store power - or to derive energy from anything other than a living being with a spirit - I think you open it up for "cheating".
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