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Battle Ground Casualties [Peace Talks Spoilers]

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Grifter:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on July 24, 2020, 03:35:57 AM ---One "other" vote for Titania.

I'm picturing her taking a shot at Mab and it doesn't go well.

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Added! I thought I'd included her but I guess not

Mira:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on July 24, 2020, 07:53:14 PM ---I doubt Murphy is going to die off page. She could die, and Harry "get's in everyone's face" in the wrap up chapter which often takes place a few days after all the action. This way Harry could have enough time to calm down enough to not just light everything on fire but still be in an emotional state where he derides the assembled White Council who is about to vote on expelling him or whoever it whose face he get's in with likely similarly severe consequences.

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In Christmas Eve, Harry has a vision of "bloody Asphalt,"  then he mentions all of the dead, people he has known.. Yes, but all of those he has known?  Or one specifically?  He seems to think in typical Harry fashion if he had handled thing differently there wouldn't have been all that death.  So did the Titan offer some bargain?  Did he screw up very badly with the Spear or the summoning/binding crystal?  Or none of it could have been avoided though he did the best he could, but it wasn't enough.  I doubt he is going to be kicked off the Council after this, but I don't think he will really care after this, one way or the other.

However having said all of that, if Murphy bites the dust, I don't see Harry going berserk.   That isn't to say he won't be full of pain and grief, but sometimes going berserk isn't going to cut it, there is pain and grief that goes beyond that.. I think this is one of those times.  I can see Murphy being that bloody pool on the asphalt, Harry succeeding in binding the Titan and shipping her off to Demonreach..  But the Fomor survive, and a lot of people wanting revenge, Harry getting in their faces trying to prevent it.. But he fails because what is left of the Council and the other Allies are out for blood, and it goes very bad for both sides... That is what I think is going to happen.

Conspiracy Theorist:
The Titan has an army, Harry took out the Titan BUT THAT STILL LEFT AN ARMY. I doubt the army would surrender so it would be a bloody grind eliminating them unit by unit and there would be a lot of civilian casualties. This not something Harry has faced before, it has always been take out the bad guy and game over, or the battle is away from civilians, like Raith Deeps. A victory but NOT a clean victory is on the cards.

I actually think that is where Little Chicago will come into play, and Harry will need Bob, running the mopping up operation making decisions to save a Hospital or a suburb from Fomor action, when he doesn’t have the forces to do both.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 25, 2020, 01:20:18 AM ---The Titan has an army, Harry took out the Titan BUT THAT STILL LEFT AN ARMY. I doubt the army would surrender so it would be a bloody grind eliminating them unit by unit and there would be a lot of civilian casualties. This not something Harry has faced before, it has always been take out the bad guy and game over, or the battle is away from civilians, like Raith Deeps. A victory but NOT a clean victory is on the cards.

I actually think that is where Little Chicago will come into play, and Harry will need Bob, running the mopping up operation making decisions to save a Hospital or a suburb from Fomor action, when he doesn’t have the forces to do both.

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Except in the middle of a battle it is kind of hard to run back to headquarters to consult little Chicago.   Also in Christmas Eve. when Mab tells Harry what the little ring does that she gave little Maggie, she says aside for the music it will give her "power" for a few hours, I assume it might be
something like making it snow.  However Harry asked her if that meant that little Maggie would have the power to turn his heart to ice?  Mab tells him nothing like that.. But why does he ask?  I am thinking Harry hopes that it would, thus he'd lose the power to feel emotion as in the original story by Hans Christian Anderson.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote ---“Just out of curiosity,” I said, “is it going to be possible for her to freeze someone’s heart and turn them into an ice statue?”
Mab looked baffled. “Those are the powers in the motion picture. Should I have cheated her?”

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I'm pretty sure he's being literal and just referencing the children's movie only.

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