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Bad Alias:
Yeah. Wouldn't a child born of True Love be a token of True Love like the rose thorn that poisoned Madelyn or the ring that burned Lara? I could see a whole story based on just the White Court and people permanently immune to them.

Conspiracy Theorist:
What if the child has all the powers of a Whamp, but is powered by True Love? They would be able to draw power from someone in True Love by touch or from a wedding ring or other Love token, and because it is True Love rather than lifeforce there is no diminution in the act of feeding due to constant renewal. Probably less power in one gulp, but on that basis if Thomas were to be changed in the same way, he could marry Justine and his Wedding Ring create a remote link to her constantly powering him up, unlike a Whamp he only need to be careful he isn’t expending more power than he is taking in, otherwise he would power down.

Of course it would be in his interest to foster True Love as potential power sources, his altered Whamp senses would allow him to sense potential couples and use his charisma to make introductions, and break down inhibitions. Look at Harry and Murphy, they really needed someone to kickstart them much earlier but there was no one there, instead Luccio and Kincaid got in the way.

Now Thomas first appearance in Death Masks at Biancas was as a beautiful youth in trunks and wings, one of the classic representation of Cupid. One of the others is as a baby. Of course Thomas prefers a sawn off shotgun to a bow and arrow, but that is a minor point. Never forget Thomas’s birthday is the 14 February, he was born for such a role.

Not sure what the White Court would make of this, probably be horrified, but is suspect they descend from the classic Cupid/Eros but were twisted to create succubi and incubi. The Court language is Etruscan and the Etruscan equivalent of Aphrodite/Vénus was Turan, whose mortal lover was Adonis/Atunis (meaning ‘Lord’), if you look at Adonis birth myth it is very dark and very White Court. Papa Raith could be Adonis or a scion of the same, he is old.

morriswalters:
After three quick reads I have come to the conclusion that Peace Talks is a mess. Battle Ground has some very heavy lifting to do to clean it up. Why not just take the book as he wrote it and and split it without adding anything more.  There are more loose ends then there are hairs on my head.

He's fairly explicit about the first feeding.  He simply ignores it.  He needed the baby to be a point of drama so he basically said "Canon, what canon?"

And his true love thing reads like true lust.  You don't turn love off and on like a spigot. And he's developed a fascination with threesomes.  He has two out of the oven and one in development with Murphy.  I'm as happy go lucky as the next guy, but this tires me out just reading it. At this rate Harry ain't gonna have any energy for the BAT.

And who in Gods name puts a cripple in charge of security?  Nobody seems to think it's absurd that Carlos can just barely walk but he in charge of the security detail. Jim on the other hand thought it was such a good idea he used it twice in the same book? And the White Council has a fornication detector?  Really?

And my favorite Keystone fools.
--- Quote ---Without looking at him, she extended a hand. Corb reached into his robes and withdrew a length of chain maybe ten feet long from them. One end was attached to a steel band around the base of his throat, mostly concealed by his robes. He handed the other end to the Titanic woman.

Butcher, Jim. Peace Talks (Dresden Files) (p. 275). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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A pet King, how precious.

Dina:
Ok, I won't comment about the kinky parts but:

a) baby whampires. We had not previous canon about that. I mean, yes, until PT I would have imagined that pregnancy was normal as babies were human but we know they are not really humans. We know that they have a dormant parasite. And we don't know the process. I believe it's not so much a "first feed" as a way to be developed, like the pupa of an insect. It is needed to shape the parasite itself. But Maggie Sr. survived, even when the father of his child was very strong and the child himself has a very powerful parasite, so I guess her magic helped. And the baby grew stronger precisely because his mother was so strong.

b) Ramirez is a wizard, and a competent one. And Marcone has his own people. So yes, Ramirez has physical issues but he can give orders (he can think, he can talk) and he can do magic. Would you have a problem with Professor X in the charge, just because he cannot walk?

b)

BrainFireBob:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on July 24, 2020, 08:41:21 PM ---And his true love thing reads like true lust.  You don't turn love off and on like a spigot. And he's developed a fascination with threesomes.  He has two out of the oven and one in development with Murphy.  I'm as happy go lucky as the next guy, but this tires me out just reading it. At this rate Harry ain't gonna have any energy for the BAT.

And who in Gods name puts a cripple in charge of security?  Nobody seems to think it's absurd that Carlos can just barely walk but he in charge of the security detail. Jim on the other hand thought it was such a good idea he used it twice in the same book? And the White Council has a fornication detector?  Really?


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Few things.

The detector makes sense in a world with Whamps. In short, the way they used it. They were checking for White Court manipulation.

Also, it's not being in true love that protects you. It's an *act* of true love that entangles two souls together and gives them both protection. There's just a really efficient and common act. Self-sacrifice for love should do it too.

Also, regarding the baby: It consumes extra life force from the mother relative to a human baby. Posit: Thomas is wrong. It's not that WC are all-but infertile. It's that few humans have enough juice for the fetus to take. Bipolar Justine is actually probably at high pregnancy risk.

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