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Is Eb the Bad Guy?
SpacedCowboy:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on July 26, 2020, 01:56:02 PM ---I notice, even though the blackstaff keeps him from going outright insane, it does not stop him from the consequences of his own magic. The things he not only believes he can, but SHOULD do... What he did to Harry... Smdh...
I'd really love a scene where someone is caught in the crossfire of a magic spell and it does them no harm whatsoever.. like a child, simply because the caster does not believe they should ever hurt a child. I feel like Harry or Morgan would have such an ability..
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I’m not sure it works that way. You have to have the will and belief to cast the spell in the first place, but after that it’s “actions have consequences” time. (click to show/hide)Eb blowing a hole in Harry’s spine is an example - he certainly didn’t want to, but once let loose, the spell proceeded to its conclusion.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: SpacedCowboy on July 26, 2020, 02:39:01 PM ---I’m not sure it works that way. You have to have the will and belief to cast the spell in the first place, but after that it’s “actions have consequences” time. (click to show/hide)Eb blowing a hole in Harry’s spine is an example - he certainly didn’t want to, but once let loose, the spell proceeded to its conclusion.
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but that's just what it does it seems.. that's why not being burned by your own flame, like Justin, is considered high level skill for instance... Or an overpowering alteration of reality basically. Look at Harry in GP, he stands amidst the flames but isn't truly burned by them. Totally different then what Asher does with her counter spell for instance. Your belief goes into the spell, but most people are not Neo minded to break reality itself. Dogmatic ppl could do it. This is also part of why Harry is so disturbed by the human he kills while fleeing the wild hunt I think.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on July 26, 2020, 03:57:40 AM ---They were technically at war with the White Court for years even if the White Court didn't go for as many big charges vs them.
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I overemphasized that the younger wardens probably didn't have as much experience dealing with the White Court. We only know that Carlos told Harry (in White Night, I think) that the White Court wasn't much of a problem on the West Coast.
My main point is the wardens were interested in what Harry could tell them about Lara's plans relating to Thomas and the Svartalves. That's not a topic the wardens should really care about. In general, it doesn't have anything to do with their usual duties, unless Captain Luccio or a Senior Council member told them to gather intel on White Court intentions; and that raises another question. Why would the White Council; or if it's not the entire Council, than why would a specific Senior Council member, care about Lara Raith's plans? The attempted assassination doesn't directly involve the White Council or any specific Senior Council member, unless it does.
There's also the question that wasn't asked, "Why did Thomas Raith (or the White Court) want to kill Etri?" You'd think one of the wardens would have asked Harry that or some variation of that question. "Did Lara Raith let on why she wanted Etri dead?" or "Why have the White Court targeted the Swartalves?" Any of these questions would have made more sense for them to ask. But that's assuming the Council; or at least one specific Senior Council member, doesn't already know the answer.
This doesn't automatically mean that Ebenezer or the Council as a whole is responsible for the attack on Etri. Though there's no evidence to support this idea, it could be that Ebenzer or the Senior Council knows what really happened and know who was really responsible, but see the current situation as an opportunity to weaken the White Court and Lara Raith specifically.
BrainFireBob:
The Vampire Courts exist as allies.
The Blacks were eliminated, the Reds are now gone, and the Whites are the weakest.
The Jade keep to themselves, so the Whites are currently very exposed. Lara has missed a trick not spotting it.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on July 27, 2020, 09:11:51 PM ---I overemphasized that the younger wardens probably didn't have as much experience dealing with the White Court. We only know that Carlos told Harry (in White Night, I think) that the White Court wasn't much of a problem on the West Coast.
My main point is the wardens were interested in what Harry could tell them about Lara's plans relating to Thomas and the Svartalves. That's not a topic the wardens should really care about. In general, it doesn't have anything to do with their usual duties, unless Captain Luccio or a Senior Council member told them to gather intel on White Court intentions; and that raises another question. Why would the White Council; or if it's not the entire Council, than why would a specific Senior Council member, care about Lara Raith's plans? The attempted assassination doesn't directly involve the White Council or any specific Senior Council member, unless it does.
There's also the question that wasn't asked, "Why did Thomas Raith (or the White Court) want to kill Etri?" You'd think one of the wardens would have asked Harry that or some variation of that question. "Did Lara Raith let on why she wanted Etri dead?" or "Why have the White Court targeted the Swartalves?" Any of these questions would have made more sense for them to ask. But that's assuming the Council; or at least one specific Senior Council member, doesn't already know the answer.
This doesn't automatically mean that Ebenezer or the Council as a whole is responsible for the attack on Etri. Though there's no evidence to support this idea, it could be that Ebenzer or the Senior Council knows what really happened and know who was really responsible, but see the current situation as an opportunity to weaken the White Court and Lara Raith specifically.
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Okay, that's a good question.
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