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What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]

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vultur:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on August 03, 2020, 10:43:49 PM ---When was everything going well?
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Well, she talks about not being in total control of her hunger at the talks, well before she gives most of her energy to Thomas. She should be well-fed then and therefore not have any control issues.

TC makes kind of a big deal about how some of the Whampires are highly controlled (like Lara) and some aren't (like Madeline).



--- Quote ---It also might have to do with her being sweet on Harry. Susan couldn't separate her "hungers" for Harry, and Thomas can't with Justine.

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This is possible... but that also seems new. Has Lara developed feelings for Harry since the last time we saw them interacting? If so, is that natural, or is it like the Luccio situation in SmF/TC?


--- Quote from: Mira on August 03, 2020, 06:34:14 PM ---But here is the thing, even if she owes Lara favors, why would Mab jeopardize her Accords or the talks?

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Oh, I don't think she really did. I think Mab is "repaying" the favors in a way that benefits Mab/Winter.

I don't think the Accords are really being jeopardized. By my understanding, if Mab loans Harry to Lara to repay a favor, Harry is then acting as Lara's agent. So the White Court, not Winter, would be responsible to the svartalves under the Accords. Does Mab care if the White Court and the svartalves go to war? The White Council/Red Court war didn't seem to trouble her.

The talks, maybe, but I doubt the svartalves really have the power to ruin the talks. They could walk out, but everyone else could still come to an agreement. And the svartalves have already rejected an agreement with the Fomor (in "Bombshells") so I don't think they really have much negotiating power in this case. The svartalves are super-crafters, but not a very militant power.

So I don't think Mab is really risking all that much, and I think she already knew what Lara was going to do with the favors. (And I kind of think she arranged for Thomas to be put in a place where Harry could rescue him.)

Mira:

--- Quote ---So I don't think Mab is really risking all that much, and I think she already knew what Lara was going to do with the favors. (And I kind of think she arranged for Thomas to be put in a place where Harry could rescue him.)
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Which says the whole thing is part of Mab's four dimensional chess match, much like Skin Game.. Give up the Grail, but her Knight gains the rest of the relics.. That is why Lara became so unglued on the island, she realized she and Thomas had been set up and she thought Harry was in on it.

vultur:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 04, 2020, 05:14:04 AM ---Which says the whole thing is part of Mab's four dimensional chess match, much like Skin Game.. Give up the Grail, but her Knight gains the rest of the relics.. That is why Lara became so unglued on the island, she realized she and Thomas had been set up and she thought Harry was in on it.

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I basically agree.

My question is more, is it just Lara's realization, or has she actually been mind-manipulated?

She seems noticeably more emotional/less controlled in this book than in previous appearances (even before they arrive on Demonreach). But there could be other reasons for that (maybe Justine's pregnancy has larger implications for the White Court than we realize; maybe she really is fighting a genuine attraction to Harry. Who knows.)

BrainFireBob:
My guess is the first favor is that she gets Harry once Mab is done with him. So she's toying with her food- the true love doesn't matter, etc.


Then Harry snags Thomas. No Harry, no Thomas. And she's out of favors.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on August 04, 2020, 12:03:26 PM ---My guess is the first favor is that she gets Harry once Mab is done with him. So she's toying with ger food- the true love doesn't matter, etc.


Then Harry snags Thomas. No Harry, no Thomas. And she's out of favors.

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And now she has to protect Harry. Harry did not see that coming but Mab probably did  ;D

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