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What is Lara's problem? [PT Spoilers!]
TrueMonk:
On the what of it is not Thomas, but a shape shifter; I don't think it is the case, but if it is that person is really hardcore. Facing being imprisoned forever and not flinching takes a lot of nerve.
Also, I think Jim said once that Grey could probably become Harry to a degree that he could use some or all of his wizard powers, bit that the transformation would be so complete that Grey would effectively be gone forever. Of course only Lara knows if that is the case, since she fed him and could have faked that. Then the charge would be to uphold the illusion.
With that being said, I don't think it is odd that she charges him. It seems a fair amount of people on the forums reasons that if you get to a certain position of power and responsibility all your actions will be well reasoned out and emotions will never affect that reasoning. So far the only ones in the series who seems to live up to that inhuman ideal are (suprise) the ones that are not human in any way. I guess the angels are the best, maybe only, example.
vultur:
--- Quote from: TrueMonk on August 02, 2020, 07:06:26 AM ---It seems a fair amount of people on the forums reasons that if you get to a certain position of power and responsibility all your actions will be well reasoned out and emotions will never affect that reasoning.
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Not characters in general, but Lara specifically. Previously in the series she's been quite a bit colder and more controlled than she seems in this book. Not just the knife thing... she seems less in control of her Hunger, too.
And at one point in BR she seems ready to kill Thomas (she does shoot him)... I don't totally buy that she'd take such an extreme risk for him, or for anyone.
Even if Thomas really is Thomas*, something is odd with Lara. It almost reminds me of the way Harry was being affected by Lasciel's coin...
*and I'm leaning less toward the "fake Thomas" idea than I was a week ago, but mostly for "story" reasons; it seems like the emotional impact of this book would mostly have been a fake-out if that's the case.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Even if Thomas really is Thomas*, something is odd with Lara. It almost reminds me of the way Harry was being affected by Lasciel's coin...
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Yes, something odd, but I doubt it has anything to do with a coin. I am convinced that there was some double dealing going on and Mab is behind it. That is why she was granting the payment of favors in advance, and just what the favors were were unclear.
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*and I'm leaning less toward the "fake Thomas" idea than I was a week ago, but mostly for "story" reasons; it seems like the emotional impact of this book would mostly have been a fake-out if that's the case.
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I never thought Thomas was a fake, I agree that Alfred would have spotted it even if Harry missed it.
I still think Lara's violent reaction on the island came from the realization that both she and Thomas were used by Mab as pawns in her four dimensional chess game. I think one of the favors granted by Mab was the safety of Thomas if he pulled it off, she didn't anticipate that he'd be thrown half dead in stasis in a cell on Demonreach. Mab would simply say, "you wanted him safe, he is safe." Lara would also think Harry was in on that one. Thomas agreed to do whatever to keep Justine safe.
Perhaps Mab promised to keep the baby Hunger asleep so it couldn't feed off of Justine.
Arjan:
Lara was always in control because her hunger was always well fed.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 02, 2020, 11:30:29 AM ---Lara was always in control because her hunger was always well fed.
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Sure, but then why is she already not totally in control earlier in the book, before she gives energy to Thomas?
I mean, it's been established since BR that when the White Court are really hurt or really low on energy they can lose control. But Lara not being 100% in control when everything is going well seems very unlike her.
--- Quote from: Mira on August 02, 2020, 10:09:00 AM --- Yes, something odd, but I doubt it has anything to do with a coin.
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Oh, it's not necessarily a Fallen as the source - but I think the way she is acting is kind of reminiscent of Harry under Lash's influence, and maybe implies some sort of external influence.
--- Quote ---I am convinced that there was some double dealing going on and Mab is behind it. That is why she was granting the payment of favors in advance, and just what the favors were were unclear.
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Oh definitely. I'm kind of thinking Mab might have done something to Lara's mind, like she did to Harry in SmF. That might even have been the first favor - maybe Lara needs to not know something during the talks, or something of that sort.
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