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Peace Talks - What did you like? What didn't you like? What were you expecting?
toodeep:
1. Accorded attendees seemed really low count. Why no black court, shapeshifter, or organizations from other countries? I mean, you really mean that we know all the accord signers already? There are no other signers from Asian folklore? Odin is there, are there no other gods/pantheons with people active enough to be signers? I thought this was going to be a chance to show the league Harry was moving up into by showing us the next tier of players, but no Drakul, really just about nobody new.
2. Book was waaaayyyy to wordy. I think a good 25% of the book was summarizing what had happened in the previous 15 books, short stories, or graphic novels. Telling readers what they already knew if they have read the entire series. It really made especially the first half of the book a slog. I found myself skipping whole pages on the first read through as he dropped the same summaries of people we know or things that have happened before into this book that he dropped into previous books (or at least it sure felt that way). By the BAT Jim is going to have to decide if he is writing for readers of the series or not, because if he continues to write each book so it can be read by a new reader, its going to be 75% summaries of previous books and only 25% new text, and I'm not sure I can take that.
3. Murphy drove Thomas and Lara to the boat after meeting them outside. That put very strong moral restrictions on activities for no reason Lara would accept. Why wouldn't Lara have arranged her people to pick up Thomas and take him to the boat in a limo - a limo with 3-4 women in the back for Thomas to feed upon immediately? She knew he was being treated badly while being held, she could assume he would need to feed.
Mira:
--- Quote ---3. Murphy drove Thomas and Lara to the boat after meeting them outside. That put very strong moral restrictions on activities for no reason Lara would accept. Why wouldn't Lara have arranged her people to pick up Thomas and take him to the boat in a limo - a limo with 3-4 women in the back for Thomas to feed upon immediately? She knew he was being treated badly while being held, she could assume he would need to feed.
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What car did she drive? She couldn't drive the M.M. because her feet can't reach the pedals, so you'd think Lara would arrange the transport.
Avernite:
I think the peace talks should've had talks.
Day 1: What we saw
Day 2: talks in the background, Harry's heist
Day 3: talks, and recriminations about where Thomas went, then poof, Titan
It feels to me like day 2 and 3 were squished together to reduce the booklength, but then it was no longer necessary when the book was split anyway.
Also I would echo the 'why were the Fomor ever hiding'. Do they really only have a titan, king, and a handful of mooks? That could explain it, Winter/Faerie didn't win by killing their tough guys, but just by reducing their footsoldiers so much that the only actions open to the Fomor were slugging matches. The last years have rebuilt at least low-level mooks, and now with Winter occupied by Fomor-allied Outsiders they see a chance... but they can't have enough mooks to really beat Chicago (right?)
However, I did very much like Harry not being a noob with the island, but really using its potential. Sad for Thomas, and I liked Lara's analysis of what he just did.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I think the peace talks should've had talks.
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I totally agree, then we would have understood who were for the Fomor joining the Accords and who were against and at least a vague reason why.
I agree that at times it seemed way too wordy.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: ClintACK on July 21, 2020, 02:18:49 PM ---I liked seeing Harry and his friends again. Several scenes landed beautifully -- particularly Maggie.
I didn't like ending the book with most of the threads still up in the air. I'd expected some of that, but it was even worse. Thankfully, this is a temporary objection. In future, I'll be able to read Peace Talks and Battle Ground as two parts of a single novel, without the dangling threads. (I hope.)
Biggest unmet expectation -- I'd been imagining the Peace Talks as a big Unseelie Accord event, where in fact it was really a Chicago event. It was Marcone inviting all of the supernatural players in the Chicago area to discuss the fomor, rather than a world-wide anything. As a result, the talks felt a bit small -- we didn't get a glimpse of a bigger world of major nations we've never even heard of, or know almost nothing about.
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All of this.
--- Quote from: toodeep on July 21, 2020, 02:37:20 PM ---3. Murphy drove Thomas and Lara to the boat after meeting them outside. That put very strong moral restrictions on activities for no reason Lara would accept. Why wouldn't Lara have arranged her people to pick up Thomas and take him to the boat in a limo - a limo with 3-4 women in the back for Thomas to feed upon immediately? She knew he was being treated badly while being held, she could assume he would need to feed.
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Didn't Lara say it wouldn't be enough for Thomas to drain someone entirely?
--- Quote from: Avernite on July 21, 2020, 03:54:08 PM ---Day 3: talks, and recriminations about where Thomas went, then poof, Titan
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I think that could have been a much more satisfying book, but I'll wait until I've read PT and BG a few times to decide.
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