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The Hounds of Tindalos - who were they after? SPOILERS

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Conspiracy Theorist:
Suppose the ritual to time travel lets in the Hounds? You have to survive them trying to nip the paradox in the bud, at the same time you break two Laws for the price of one. The law against time travel exists, so it isn’t impossible, it probably takes huge power and focus and risk to life. The Hounds attack before you time travel, so Eb knows either he or Harry will time travel, and that he can do it successfully as they have already survived the Hounds. Eb is the Blackstaff with permission to break the Laws, so why not? There are no consequences for him on this ocasion.

Yuillegan:
Well, all that and a small measure of simple luck. Vadderung says it's far easier generally to shape the future. The Law actually is Thou Shall Not Swim Against The Currents of Time...not merely going backwards. Vadderung doesn't say it is impossible, merely improbable. Just because he is allowed to do travel backwards doesn't mean he can actually alter events, or even that he has. And I propose to you that Jim hasn't yet revealed whether Time Travel creates an ontological paradox.

Besides, why go to all the bother? Plenty of easier ways to create perfect alibis with magic. Why do it like this? He could have someone enchanted to look like him or create an illusion or alter memories. He doesn't actually have to travel in time to achieve his goal.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Because Eb got the idea after the event, he already had the alibi when he realised he had/would time travel. He had an effect with no cause, and the Hounds alerted him to it.

Yuillegan:
That would be an ontological paradox. He goes back because he already went back which reminds him to go back. So why did the first iteration go back?

This creates a timeloop from which Eb cannot escape. Or at least that's one theory.

Vadderung supports this when Harry asks him what happens if he kills his grandfather i.e. how would he know to go back. Vadderung says a twinned universe happens, one where Harry is never born and one where Harry fails in the attempt and is killed. The point being that because Eb already exists he obviously isn't killed by a time traveling Harry and Harry's own existence is proof. Which isn't to say Eb might not have killed a time traveling Harry earlier in his own life...but surely he would be trying to prevent this.

knnn:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on July 28, 2020, 07:42:49 AM ---Humans bugs don't seem as likely, at least to me. Lara has mortals in her employ with the training to detect such mundane methods and they wouldn't disrupt the tech. But Harry being unable to see them seems likely as he isn't even aware of most of the internet.

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I don't think Lara is actually being bugged.   I think it's simple human treachery (i.e. Justine stealing secrets).   If you will recall, Lara summarily discounts the idea treachery ("has never happened" -- conveniently forgetting about Madeline in Turn Coat).   We've already seen Justine go behind Lara's back for Harry/Thomas.   Who is to say she isn't doing the same for other parties (possibly with Thomas' knowledge and consent)?

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