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Peace talks, battle ground, blackstaff spoilers
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on July 20, 2020, 03:06:35 AM ---Peace Talks was always meant to be the most violent book to date, and I think the double meaning could be that the Talks are in Pieces (shattered by the machinations of the Black Council etc).
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I like that.
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on July 20, 2020, 05:07:43 PM ---Also, it was just the LaChaise ghoul clan. Presumably there are other weaker clans out there.
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They might be the dominant clan or just the clan chosen to attend. Kind of like how if Harry didn't know a lot about the White Court and just said Lara Raith of House Raith was at the talks.
Second Aristh:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on July 21, 2020, 03:15:16 AM ---I like that.
They might be the dominant clan or just the clan chosen to attend. Kind of like how if Harry didn't know a lot about the White Court and just said Lara Raith of House Raith was at the talks.
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There's also Peace = Piece, as slang for a firearm, so weapon-talks if we allow word play.
I'm more inclined to believe that the LaChaise clan is separate in the Accords from other ghouls (either as members of some other nation or non-members). Officially it's the White Court, not the Raith Court.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Grifter on July 19, 2020, 07:51:52 PM ---But what if instead, Eb does die, and gives Harry the Blackstaff. Then he finds out that the Council voted him out, but they have to keep him against their own wishes or risk losing the staff.
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I can't see him trusting Harry enough to make a final choice to pass it on to him, at this point. I suppose Harry could take it up of his own initiative if Eb just died in front of him and dropped it, though. But if an excommunicated member had possession of the blackstaff, they're eminently capable of just killing him to recover it.
I think it much more likely that his role in the fighting is going to swing the vote in his favour or get it quashed. He's going to be rolling up with a couple of KotC backing him, and it would be hard to go through a major battle without having to show soulfire and probably the heavenly weapons in front of the warden / senior council contingent. A public display of Heaven's endorsement would make it pretty hard to carry on a proceedings based on arguing he's a bad guy.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on July 21, 2020, 04:26:53 AM ---There's also Peace = Piece, as slang for a firearm, so weapon-talks if we allow word play.
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That's good too.
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on July 21, 2020, 04:26:53 AM ---Officially it's the White Court, not the Raith Court.
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That's my point. Harry probably knows very little about the internal structures of Ghoul politics, culture, and society. But my point of why the LaChaise clan is there as opposed to the Ghoul High King or whatever is entirely speculation.
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on July 21, 2020, 04:46:14 AM ---But if an excommunicated member had possession of the blackstaff, they're eminently capable of just killing him to recover it.
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Authorized. Not necessarily capable. ;)
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on July 21, 2020, 04:46:14 AM ---He's going to be rolling up with a couple of KotC backing him.
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Again. Having a Knight or two backing him has never seemed to lessen the Council's judgment of Harry. A Knight helped him kick off the war with the Reds, and three Knights helped him finish it. If I was a wizard and I knew half of the things we know about Harry, I'd be scared of kicking him off the Council. Depending on which half I knew, my position would be either be keep him or keep him or kill him outright. Making him an enemy seems foolish.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on July 21, 2020, 05:52:13 PM ---Again. Having a Knight or two backing him has never seemed to lessen the Council's judgment of Harry. A Knight helped him kick off the war with the Reds, and three Knights helped him finish it. If I was a wizard and I knew half of the things we know about Harry, I'd be scared of kicking him off the Council. Depending on which half I knew, my position would be either be keep him or keep him or kill him outright. Making him an enemy seems foolish.
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I'm not sure how open he was in his reports to the Council of Michael's involvement in GP. And the mainstream Council doesn't know the details of what went down at Chichen Itza - it's not like Eb or the Grey Council members are going to testify to what they say. They're busy pretending they don't exist and were never in the area.
Waving the evidence that an archangel trusts him with Soulfire and the Spear of Destiny under the noses of half the senior council and some of the most important wardens left standing is a little harder for them to ignore.
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