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Mira:

--- Quote ---Anyway, this is her choice and I can't even really say that it is wrong. You see, Harry's idea to just stash Murphy in demonreach for her safety is exactly the kind of choice motivated by the same mentality of Ebenezar Mckoy. The same mentality Harry openly despise in front of his own grandfather. Harry is using double standard here, and I can't blame him much.

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Actually he never suggested that, she suggested that he was thinking of doing that.  He suggested
she watch over the paranetters, who were at Mac's and perhaps some other places.  Who when it hits the fan will be in real danger would need a clear head and a smart fighter.   Harry isn't wrong, I know it hurts Murphy's ego, but he isn't wrong. 

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on July 22, 2020, 10:23:43 AM ---Actually he never suggested that, she suggested that he was thinking of doing that.  He suggested
she watch over the paranetters, who were at Mac's and perhaps some other places.  Who when it hits the fan will be in real danger would need a clear head and a smart fighter.   Harry isn't wrong, I know it hurts Murphy's ego, but he isn't wrong.

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And Murphy is not wrong either.

Mira:
Peace Talks page 315


--- Quote ---She shrugged one shoulder.  Her voice was heavy and tired.  "Everything hurts.  But I can move some."
   "Maybe you should take shelter," I said.  "The Paranetters are going to head for Mac's place.  They'll need someone to keep a cool head and a sharp watch."
  She snorted.  "You think I cannot handle myself?'
   "Don't," I said quietly.  "I was ready to take you with me into literal Hell and you know it.  Every warrior gets hurt.  Has limits.  There's no shame in acknowledging that."
   She was quiet for a moment.  Then she asked, "If you were hurt, would you sit this one out?"
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This is why I started this thread in the first place, that bit sticks out to me.  While the answer from Harry most likely would be, no.  It would be just as stupid and egocentric if he did, even though as a wizard he has a lot more tools even injured than she does, a mere vanilla mortal.  Harry goes on to
acknowledge that there is no way he can stop her, that is who she is, but sadly most likely it will also get her killed.  Now maybe her death will make a difference, maybe there will be some miracle she will get cured and kick ass or she will ride off to the tune of the Ride of the Valkyrie from the Ring Cycle after she becomes a bloody grease spot..  Or maybe not so much..   So if the paranet gets wiped out because when the chips were down no one was there for them, it's okay because well, Murphy didn't want to sit it out..
--- Quote ---"Every warrior gets hurt.  Has limits.  There's no shame in acknowledging that."
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  Nor is there shame in standing a post, with her skills considering her current limitations, where she can do the most good..

--- Quote ---And Murphy is not wrong either.

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In this case, yes, she is...  The answer is against what is coming?  No, she cannot handle herself, from her questions to Harry she has no clue.  She cannot be reasoned with, Harry knows this, and now has the added weight of knowing he is going to lose her either way..

Bad Alias:
It seems like Murphy's decision is to be in the thick of it. She's just a liability in such a situation. Even being a driver would be a huge liability. If a car gets stuck, it's a death trap. Murphy doesn't have a lot of mobility. An overwatch position has the same problems if she needs to change positions. She really needs to be in REMF position.

huangjimmy108:

--- Quote from: Mira on July 22, 2020, 12:26:24 PM ---Peace Talks page 315

This is why I started this thread in the first place, that bit sticks out to me.  While the answer from Harry most likely would be, no.  It would be just as stupid and egocentric if he did, even though as a wizard he has a lot more tools even injured than she does, a mere vanilla mortal.  Harry goes on to
acknowledge that there is no way he can stop her, that is who she is, but sadly most likely it will also get her killed.  Now maybe her death will make a difference, maybe there will be some miracle she will get cured and kick ass or she will ride off to the tune of the Ride of the Valkyrie from the Ring Cycle after she becomes a bloody grease spot..  Or maybe not so much..   So if the paranet gets wiped out because when the chips were down no one was there for them, it's okay because well, Murphy didn't want to sit it out..  Nor is there shame in standing a post, with her skills considering her current limitations, where she can do the most good..
In this case, yes, she is...  The answer is against what is coming?  No, she cannot handle herself, from her questions to Harry she has no clue.  She cannot be reasoned with, Harry knows this, and now has the added weight of knowing he is going to lose her either way..

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Harry's abilities is a non issue here. Even if Harry becomes a vanilla and he is injured, it is likely that Harry will still choose to go to battle himself regardless. Which is the same as Murphy's choice. The guy just don't know how to give up. You need to cripple him or put Harry into a coma if you want him to stop going.

We are facing a supernatural army led by a freaking Titan here. If a disaster that could wiped out the paranet really appears, Murphy being there will just be buying soysauce. Not much better than if she went with Harry anyway. Besides, facing the likes of Ethniu, Murphy is an ant and Harry is just a slightly bigger ant. The enemy is so strong, the power difference between Harry and Murphy becomes insignificant.

Things are so chaotic right now, nobody could be certain what is the right choice. If your luck is bad, any road could end up in death.

Under such circumstances, following your heart and doing what you really want is not a bad choice at all. At least one won't die in regret afterwards even if things end up in tragedy. Besides, who knows? Miracle could happened.

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