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How long can Butcher maintain WC suspicion of Harry?

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BrainFireBob:
Butcher's done an outstanding job of keeping the literal angels that will vouchsafe Harry's character from the Council.

Have we seen Ancient Mai since Mouse testified on Harry's behalf, revealing that he's chosen to accept being Harry's pet? She might have converted on the spot politically- explains the Merlin's desperation.

From the Council's perspective, Harry is a loose cannon who deals freely with vampires, the nastier fae, and other monsters. He's worked with Nicodemus, the White Court, the Black Court; he has an unexplained knowledge of necromancy, Etruscan, and Sumerian yet struggles in Latin (this implies he practices the other two frequently, so dealings with White Court and ghouls); he starts the war with the Red Court, largely stays out of it (aside from eliminating the Tigress) until drafted, but then when they strike at his child he up and eliminates them all like they are nothing.

He's been known to throw Hellfire.

Yet he also has Soulfire and is close to the KotC. This should create cognitive distortion or cause the Senior Council to reconsider.

Has anyone seen him use Soulfire on the Council?
Have we seen Mai since Mouse testified on Harry's behalf?
Does anyone on the Council know that Harry is a frequent collaborator of the KotC- recall, they're not members of the Accords?

Do you think Battle Grounds will touch on this point, given the weapons Harry is wielding, and the implied revelation of his role as Warden?

EDIT: Going to add that from a Doylist POV, the point of Kemmler is throw suspicion on Harry, who appears to tick nearly all the same boxes. Which is part of why I am so confident that he was the last Starborn, and he used that ability specifically to seek knowledge beyond the Outer Gates.

Bad Alias:
You've also got to list all the "bad" things Harry has done. I doubt the Council knows too much about the things that would help Harry the most, like Uriel, Odin, and Hades all taking a favorable interest in him.

We do know that Foo Dogs can be evil. I don't think Ancient Mai knows that though. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a large contingent of eastern wizards who think very differently about Harry than the did before TC.

No, we haven't seen Ancient Mai since TC.

Grifter:
I mean, as long as he's a member of the evil Sidhe court, regularly allies himself with the defacto leader of the most powerful vampire court, performs necromancy when convenient, starts wars with supernatural nations for personal reasons, shacks up with Dark Elves, commits war crimes against ghouls, makes bargains with devils, works with Denarians, rides with the Wild Hunt, and strolls into Edinburgh once every few decades to defy the Senior Council to their faces, then I'm sure he'll be on a short list.

But it wouldn't surprise me if there's an overwhelming vote by the Council at large to keep him.  He's probably got a bad reputation with the older generation, but a lot of word of mouth will be that he Does the Right Thing, and people will like him for that.

Bad Alias:
Wouldn't that be a twist? Harry doesn't get the chance to put on much of a defense at the Council meeting for ... reasons. The Merlin lays out all these reasons to kick him to the curb. Harry's sure he's out. Then either other members get a chance to speak and a bunch of randos list all the reasons to keep him, or there's a vote and he wins the vote in a landslide an it's explained after the fact by said bunch of randos or Luccio or something.

Grifter:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on July 17, 2020, 07:56:09 PM ---Wouldn't that be a twist? Harry doesn't get the chance to put on much of a defense at the Council meeting for ... reasons. The Merlin lays out all these reasons to kick him to the curb. Harry's sure he's out. Then either other members get a chance to speak and a bunch of randos list all the reasons to keep him, or there's a vote and he wins the vote in a landslide an it's explained after the fact by said bunch of randos or Luccio or something.

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I'd love to see that.  I think the end of BG is going to be tragic for Harry, but a little silver lining might be that someone walks up and says the Council voted even before the battle, and Harry's expecting the worst, and it's the opposite. 

But knowing Butcher, Harry will have lost several loved ones, will have faced tragic consequences in the battle, and will then be told that the Council overwhelmingly voted him out, and he's only got the monsters left.

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