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What if its not Thomas
morriswalters:
The first book had to be Peace Talks, they had already announced it, six years ago, and they released the first chapter.
There are too many characters in the book to this point, which makes the book thin in terms of the time spent with them. Normally Harry would be calling on his allies and bringing them together. He's got Murphy, he's lost Thomas and he's pissed off Lara. Rashid is at the gate. He wasted time on the debacle that is Butter's elevation to Knight by making him more buff and giving him a ménage à trois in an attempt to lend him weight he hasn't earned in the text. Not to mention nerfing the sword.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: Second Aristh on July 18, 2020, 06:04:34 PM ---I agree. Explosions are not Thomas's style, and it's hard to believe that Thomas decided to assassinate Etri at the center of his power without an escape strategy.
I think it's more plausible that Thomas was in the wrong place at the wrong time. If Thomas is in the room with Etri at the same time that an "assassination attempt" happened and if the real attacker disappeared, the svartalves would assume they caught the assassin. (Also, I can't find the on-camera part. Was the attempt caught on camera?)
Overall, it put this one at the BC's feet instead of Lara or Mab (if they don't know the family relationship, it's easy enough to assume Harry would help a frequent ally). It's an easy distraction setup for Harry so they can get him indirectly.
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Lara told Harry that Thomas was caught on camera making the assassination attempt. So either it was Thomas, an impostor or perhaps someone under a veil and Thomas's reaction was misinterpreted as the attack. I think an impostor is more likely, but we have so little to go on, it's difficult to do more than guess.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on July 18, 2020, 11:50:13 PM ---The first book had to be Peace Talks, they had already announced it, six years ago, and they released the first chapter.
There are too many characters in the book to this point, which makes the book thin in terms of the time spent with them. Normally Harry would be calling on his allies and bringing them together. He's got Murphy, he's lost Thomas and he's pissed off Lara. Rashid is at the gate. He wasted time on the debacle that is Butter's elevation to Knight by making him more buff and giving him a ménage à trois in an attempt to lend him weight he hasn't earned in the text. Not to mention nerfing the sword.
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It's almost as if Bob was changing Butter's personality rather than the other way around; and yes, it does feel forced rather than being a natural progression of events. Also, this may come off as sexist, but if your girlfriend is the one who wants a three way; and I believe Andi and Marcie were an item before Andi was with Kirby, then things aren't really improving; that's just a temporary illusion, because you are about to be written out of the script. That aside, wasn't Andi supposed to be an emotional wreck? That's the way Butters description of her came off in Skin Game. Now she's not just back to normal, she's boldly experimenting with her personal and sexual relationships. The whole thing feels off.
The sword being nerfed wasn't a surprise to me because I heard Jim talk about that very thing. It was either in an interview Jim did on someone's YouTube channel or it was at a Con that he did at least a year ago. In fact, it might have been at the Con I saw Jim at last July. (What a difference a year makes.)
I sense a pattern is forming:
The young wardens who were once Harry's closest friends and supporters on the White Council no longer trust him. (And not for anything Harry has done. A least in Summer Knight you can understand how some wizards would be P.O.'d that Harry's actions dragged them into a war with the Red Court.)
Thomas' attempt to assassinate the king of the Swarthalves; if it was Thomas, makes no sense.
Lara doesn't seem to care that whatever carefully laid plan she was going to use Harry to make happen was derailed by Thomas; and she has to use the two favors Harry (Winter) owed her to rescue Thomas rather than execute whatever her original plan was.
Butters is having a ménage à trois with Andi and Marcie.
Ebenezer tries to save Harry from the machinations of the White Court of vampires by killing him.
I've figured it out and now I know what's going on. Everyone except Harry, Murphy and Winter are acting against their nature and are all Nemfected. :P
Actually, even Mab got sucker punched because didn't see the Fomor betrayal and power play coming, so her too.
morriswalters:
I think the whole point of the book was to get Thomas in that cell. Maybe the idea was to kill Thomas and break Maggie's curse? This plays to Proven Guilty where the main action looks to be doing one thing when in fact it is doing something else. That is, making it look like the idea is to kill Etri when the idea was to have Thomas end up dead.
Hagbard Celine:
My theory: It definitely *was* Thomas. Some combination of Mab, Lara, and Marcone are involved. When Lara and Mab appear in the back of Harry's car, Mab informs Harry that Lara had earned THREE favors. One of them is already paid. (Thomas' attack and/or allowing Thomas to be framed for the attack). That leaves TWO favors for Harry to fulfill. (Which both Lara and Mab now will result in Thomas being rescued). I think (as others do) that Marcone *had* to be involved because the transfer to the BFS basement (which happens to be Harry's old lab) is too much of a coincidence.
Ultimately, it may be this whole thing was done for Thomas' own good. If Butcher's version of the Hounds of Tindalos are also attracted to time travel, that opens up a whole different can of worms as to why they were outside Justine's building.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on July 18, 2020, 11:50:13 PM ---The first book had to be Peace Talks, they had already announced it, six years ago, and they released the first chapter.
There are too many characters in the book to this point, which makes the book thin in terms of the time spent with them. Normally Harry would be calling on his allies and bringing them together. He's got Murphy, he's lost Thomas and he's pissed off Lara. Rashid is at the gate. He wasted time on the debacle that is Butter's elevation to Knight by making him more buff and giving him a ménage à trois in an attempt to lend him weight he hasn't earned in the text. Not to mention nerfing the sword.
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Not to mention ectoplasmic sneezes that wasted a few paragraphs along with the very active sex life of Waldo Butters...
--- Quote ---I think the whole point of the book was to get Thomas in that cell. Maybe the idea was to kill Thomas and break Maggie's curse? This plays to Proven Guilty where the main action looks to be doing one thing when in fact it is doing something else. That is, making it look like the idea is to kill Etri when the idea was to have Thomas end up dead.
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However why that is was never gotten across...
--- Quote ---The young wardens who were once Harry's closest friends and supporters on the White Council no longer trust him. (And not for anything Harry has done. A least in Summer Knight you can understand how some wizards would be P.O.'d that Harry's actions dragged them into a war with the Red Court.)
Thomas' attempt to assassinate the king of the Swarthalves; if it was Thomas, makes no sense.
Lara doesn't seem to care that whatever carefully laid plan she was going to use Harry to make happen was derailed by Thomas; and she has to use the two favors Harry (Winter) owed her to rescue Thomas rather than execute whatever her original plan was.
Butters is having a ménage à trois with Andi and Marcie.
Ebenezer tries to save Harry from the machinations of the White Court of vampires by killing him.
I've figured it out and now I know what's going on. Everyone except Harry, Murphy and Winter are acting against their nature and are all Nemfected. :P
Actually, even Mab got sucker punched because didn't see the Fomor betrayal and power play coming, so her too.
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Yeah, I saw that pattern as well, I see it more like there is this three hundred and forty page pudding stirring in a pot. One or more of the ingredients is off, either the amount put in or somehow you miss took baking soda for corn starch, so no matter how hard you stir it will never thicken or taste right.
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