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Ebenezar and Harry (peace talks spoilers)
Second Aristh:
Yoshimo was one of the baby wardens in DB, she's younger than Harry.
Chandler is the only named wizard I can think of that might be closer to the 50-150 range than Luccio (excluding Harry), but mostly because we don't have a firm age for him. Ancient Mai has a messenger apprentice, but we don't really have much on him.
huangjimmy108:
--- Quote from: Arjan on July 16, 2020, 03:22:59 PM ---He gets old. Sometimes dementia can cause anger and agression
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He is old. He is also afraid because the council wants to boot Harry out and Harry being Harry really making the council's job easy. When EB try to persuade Harry to be in the straight and narrow, Harry defy him. More than that, Harry throw all of EB bad choices in his face.
Wizardkind in general are prideful creatures and the older they are the more prideful and stubborn they become. Paranoid too.
Do you think all of the above is enough to explain why EB acted the way he did in PT?
Cadmium:
I think Morgan is the exception that proves the rule. I think he was approaching 100 wasn’t he?
But he was tough as hell and more paranoid than all the rest.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 16, 2020, 05:36:25 PM ---There does seem to be a foreshadowing for the "changing of the guard" if you will. Suddenly older wizards of the Senior Council were old but very powerful, suddenly they seem fragile. Rivershoulders pointed out to Harry that Listens to Wind didn't have long for this world. I will cry
when he leaves, he is one of my favorites. If any of you saw the movie "Little Big Man," one of the stars was a Native American actor named Chief Dan George, he was elderly, strong, and came off as very wise. When I read about Listens to Wind, that is who I picture.
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"Changing of the guard" But to whom? Other than Klaus the Toy maker and a few of the older wardens, only one of whom we know by name, there's not a lot of characters we know. I can't remember the older warden's name but it was mentioned in Turn Coat, Swenson or something similar. Maybe Luccio might in line for a promotion to the Senior Council.
Chief Dan George was also in the Clint Eastwood movie, "The Outlaw Josie Wales." He was a very good actor. I didn't picture Listens to Wind looking like him, but I always heard his voice whenever I read LTW's dialog.
--- Quote from: raidem on July 16, 2020, 08:10:22 PM ---I think there are outside forces working against Eb's emotional well-being. I speculated before that Mouse's siblings may be in play against Eb. Then there are the outside forces that recently went up against Eb. Peace Talks has that going up against Outsiders leaves a mark on ones psyche except if you are a starborn. It could be that Eb's fight against the cornerhounds left him open to further emotional conflict. I think the black council worked indirectly to divide Harry from Eb.
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Yea, Eb got buried under the cornerhounds. Something as simple as that might have made him vulnerable to becoming nemfected. There's one Walker we haven't seen yet. It may be able to disguise itself to look like another Outsider or simply remain invisible. So Eb's already huge anger issues with the Red Court get dialed up to eleven. He even tries to save Harry by using lethal magic against him. Eb could be losing it, but it could be that he was pushed into losing control.
--- Quote from: Grifter on July 16, 2020, 10:09:26 PM ---It does make you wonder if a lot of Council talent was culled in the Kemmler wars, followed by the Dresden wars, leaving only the most powerful (and by default aged) wizards capable of surviving. Was it all strategy to weaken them across a century in preparation for the BAT events?
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That makes sense. Someone like Cowl might think like that.
Vanderboom:
--- Quote from: matrim55 on July 16, 2020, 03:14:17 PM ---Another thing that could be effecting Eb is the use of the Black Staff over time.
From changes we know it pulses with a black energy. Also, if it is Mother Winter's walking stick, we can assume that it is not meant for humans. EB to me is showing impulse control similar to Harry ever since take up the winter mantle.
Anyone agree?
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I do! It's clear that Ebenezer and Harry are foils for each other, so the parallels make sense, as do the different choices. I also think that the Blackstaff influence, combined with the Peabody damage, might make it increasingly difficult for Ebenezer to control his emotions.
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