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Ebenezar and Harry (peace talks spoilers)

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Mira:

--- Quote from: Second Aristh on July 16, 2020, 07:18:23 PM ---Eb and Maggie didn't have the best relationship either.  Harry is making choices similar to her which is bound to be hitting hard on Eb's emotions.  At the same time, Harry is throwing Eb's biggest mistakes back in his face.  I don't think his anger is too uncharacteristic.  It's covering up fear.

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 Could be a lot of it, but also outside of that time in Blood Rites, Eb and Harry have never had that
heart to heart, at least not on page, that would answer a lot of questions that still haunt Harry.

vultur:

--- Quote from: noblehunter on July 16, 2020, 03:45:42 PM ---Whamps seem to be a particular pressure point for him. I don't think we've seen him deal with them extensively before. His behavior seems plausible if it looks like history is repeating itself with someone he cares about being led to their doom by the White Court.

Even the most controlled people can get unhinged if someone does a tap dance on their trauma.

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Pretty much this.

I don't think this is horribly out-of-character for Eb, or Harry would have told him about Thomas before. (That is, the fact that Harry never mentioned that Thomas is Eb's grandson implies that Harry expected a dangerous reaction from Eb.)

Eb has supported Harry up to now. That doesn't necessarily mean he's a good person. Even though he is probably on the defenders-of-reality side of the current conflict, he's done a lot of pretty terrible things.

Maybe all the collateral damage from things like Krakatoa were justified given the threat, but that's still going to have pretty huge effects on his personality. Eb is protected from actual black magic corruption effects, but that's not going to keep him from becoming mentally scarred/calloused/burned out...

raidem:

--- Quote ---    I am wondering if Eb isn't suffering from dementia of some sort?  His anger is very uncharacteristic, he seems way overboard as far as paranoia goes concerning Harry.   Or is he and most of the Senior Council, being wizards, are suseptable to being Nem infected, causing the unusual anger, paranoia, etc,  allowing the Enemy to divide and conquer.
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I think there are outside forces working against Eb's emotional well-being.  I speculated before that Mouse's siblings may be in play against Eb.  Then there are the outside forces that recently went up against Eb.  Peace Talks has that going up against Outsiders leaves a mark on ones psyche except if you are a starborn.  It could be that Eb's fight against the cornerhounds left him open to further emotional conflict.  I think the black council worked indirectly to divide Harry from Eb.

morriswalters:
I think Eb is afraid.  Everybody knows something is coming and what.  Except Harry.  And nobody is talking.  And Harry himself has some anger issues.  And this has something to do with Eb's wife, I just don't understand what yet.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on July 16, 2020, 08:16:01 PM ---I think Eb is afraid.  Everybody knows something is coming and what.  Except Harry.  And nobody is talking.  And Harry himself has some anger issues.  And this has something to do with Eb's wife, I just don't understand what yet.

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  Oh shades of "Dune.." 

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