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Rob:
The first rule of a con is: don't let the mark think too long about things.  I'm pretty sure Harry is being conned, but I don't know by whom.  That said, I have some thoughts on the matter.

(click to show/hide)First: Although several people 'know' Justine is pregnant, we never actually see evidence of a pregnancy. Harry makes some vague quip about an aura, but he never actually uses the Sight.  You'd think he'd jump at the chance to see his niece-or-nephew with the Sight when the niece-or-nephew is still in the process of being formed: you want to talk about magic, that's potent stuff right there.  And, come to think of it, literally nobody else saw any evidence, either.  The people who know, know only because Thomas or Justine told them.  Prediction: Justine's not pregnant, but Thomas certainly thought she was.  Why?  Because it made him much easier to manipulate into doing something recklessly stupid and foolish and inexplicable.

Second: Did I mention Thomas's attempted assassination is recklessly stupid and foolish and inexplicable?  What if the entire point of the attempted assassination isn't to kill anyone, but to create chaos that forces Harry to do terrible damage to his own alliances?  Look, e.g., at what Harry did to his relationship with Ebenezar.  Look at how he almost wrecked his frenemy status with Lara.  Look at...

Third: The Titan is a hell of a distraction, isn't she?  She's taking up all of Harry's attention right now, isn't she?

Fourth: What if there was a bad guy so powerful, so subtle, so over-the-top, that this bad guy would be willing to orchestrate a Titan attacking Chicago just to ensure Harry was going to be too distracted to notice what was happening around him?

Fifth: Don't we already have a bad guy like that?  Namely, Nemesis?

Sixth: Isn't it kind of interesting that Thomas isn't able to say anything clearly?  Harry just assumes he's saying 'Justine' and asking Harry to look after her.  What if Thomas is saying 'Justine' because he's trying to warn Harry?

Seventh: Nemesis has infected Justine.  Nemtine then manipulated Thomas into doing something so reckless it would force Thomas's number one ally, Harry, into a series of reckless and potentially alliance-wrecking moves in order to save him.  The Titan's arrival is both a feint and an attack all at once: if Harry wrecks his alliances, the Titan will make short work of him.  If Harry keeps them, the Titan will keep him busy for long enough so that Nemesis can advance its own agenda.

Eighth: But wait, Justine's a mortal.  Isn't there something about mortals and free will, and whenever that's threatened by forces-from-beyond Uriel gets off the bench?

Ninth: What if Uriel has already come off the bench and Harry is his unknowing agent?  What if Uriel saw this coming, and thus ensured Harry would have the placard and the Spear of Longinus and two Knights of the Cross on-call?

Tenth: I'm thinking virtually all the action in Peace Talks is a shell game, it's three-card monty, meant to distract the readers from what's really going on.
Discuss!  :)

Rob:
Having now read Battle Ground, I have to say I'm kind of pleased with my predictions above.  :)

Mira:

--- Quote from: Rob on September 29, 2020, 03:49:11 PM ---Having now read Battle Ground, I have to say I'm kind of pleased with my predictions above.  :)

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 What I want to know, is the mortals cannot be infected bit purely a theory stated here by us that said long enough and hard enough believed to be absolutely true?  Or is there a WOJ out there that states that and either Jim out right lied to us or changed his mind on the subject?  Or did he just sing, "I ain't a going to tell you..." And we just ran with it believing what we wanted to believe? :-\

Rob:
Every WoJ I've seen says the secret sauce mortals bring to the party is free will, is the ability to make choices.  That leads me to believe Nemesis can't infect a mortal: it has to be invited in.  The monsters might be able to make you do things, but they can't make you choose to do them.

Or to put another way: if Nemesis can overrule free will, then why hasn't it overruled Harry's already?

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 29, 2020, 03:57:33 PM --- What I want to know, is the mortals cannot be infected bit purely a theory stated here by us that said long enough and hard enough believed to be absolutely true?  Or is there a WOJ out there that states that and either Jim out right lied to us or changed his mind on the subject?  Or did he just sing, "I ain't a going to tell you..." And we just ran with it believing what we wanted to believe? :-\

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I don't know that Jim has spoken to it at all.  One of the more common ways to lie is to talk so much that nobody can keep track of exactly what you said.  A safe assumption is to believe that Jim will do whatever he thinks he needs to do to achieve what he wants to achieve. Three months from now and 30 book signings later alter there will be 30 new WOJ's full of his current thinking.

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