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Ferrovax [Peace Talks Spoilers]
ClintACK:
If Ferrovax is the Midgard Serpent, then note that he probably killed Odin's son Thor in the DV's version of Ragnarok. (Which didn't quite go down by the book, since Odin was supposed to get killed.)
That's a pretty good reason to hold a grudge.
Grifter:
--- Quote from: ClintACK on July 16, 2020, 03:24:40 AM ---If Ferrovax is the Midgard Serpent, then note that he probably killed Odin's son Thor in the DV's version of Ragnarok. (Which didn't quite go down by the book, since Odin was supposed to get killed.)
That's a pretty good reason to hold a grudge.
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Seeing as Jörmungandr was supposed to die as well, I don't think we can go precisely on that. If Ferro is Jörmungandr, then Thor might still be around, at least as a mantle, if not a wrestler.
Yuillegan:
Nice theory, Grifter.
Personally I just think it was the two biggest guys in the room sizing each other up. Perhaps somewhat traditional enemies or something like it. Perhaps they were enemies in another pantheon.
I don't think he is the Erlking, though. The Erlking and Kringle seem to be much better friends. And Hades is the kind of being who doesn't show up as much in the mortal world. Which suggests he hasn't relinquished as much Power as Vadderung, but he also gets less involved. That was what the whole point Ethniu was making to Vadderung "Are you still involved in that Game" etc.
Con:
I like the theory. It'd satisfy my desire for more Ferrovax than we've gotten so far.
Also Vadderung tapped his staff three times, which I think si the official calling for a duel.
--- Quote from: ClintACK on July 16, 2020, 03:24:40 AM ---If Ferrovax is the Midgard Serpent, then note that he probably killed Odin's son Thor in the DV's version of Ragnarok. (Which didn't quite go down by the book, since Odin was supposed to get killed.)
That's a pretty good reason to hold a grudge.
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WOJ confirmed Thor is still alive playing College Football.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Grifter on July 16, 2020, 12:37:05 AM ---I'm not sure why you say Odin is like Hermes/Mercury. Odin is like Zeus but a bigger deal. He's a Sky God like Zeus, and is the ruler of the Pantheon like Zeus.
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Historically, the Romans identified their god Mercury with the Germanic Wotan/Woden/Odin. Jupiter (also identified with Zeus) was made equivalent to Thor.
This is preserved in the English weekday names, which are equivalents/translations of the Latin ones used by the Romans; "dies Mercurii" (day of Mercury) became Wednesday (Woden's day), while "dies Jovis" (day of Jupiter) became Thursday (Thor's day).
Yes, Odin is the ruler of the pantheon, but Thor is the thunder god so he got the identification with Jupiter. The Mercury/Odin connection is their roles as gods of knowledge/secret knowledge/magic.
Odin isn't really primarily a sky god anyway. Knowledge/wisdom, secrets/magic/writing/runes, war/battle fury/victory, and to some degree death ("god of the hanged" and collector of dead heroes in Valhalla) are more central.
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