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"Stick 'em with the pointy end" ... Peace Talks Spoilers
Conspiracy Theorist:
We know there is a cure for Whampirism, True Love before fatal feeding. The hunger just withers away. I think that exposition together with the swords exposition may provide a cure for Thomas
Gigglestomp:
Thomas is going to have sex with a big foot to stabilize. Then, they might be able to kill his hunger with the sword but at this point it may be too intertwined with his pattern to remove.
We also know there are 3 squatch / halfsquatch in town or around, though all are male.
Conspiracy Theorist:
I am not sure Thomas is River Shoulders type, and frankly the Genowskwa is too much rough trade, and Irving isn’t in town yet. An alternative would be if Thomas was whammied Etri’s people donating the life force, to make up for the damage they did to him as puppet and nor principal Evanna allowing herself to be fed on unto death to compensate. Very in keeping with their outlook on life.
An alternative it was Evanna who whammied Thomas to kill Etri, most murders are committed by someone you know, maybe Thomas broke it off with her, due to Justine, triggering her to get Thomas to attack Etri. Very strange for a Swartelf, but Nemesis? She is second amongst Etri’s people, typical target for Nemesis. Maybe they got to Evanna in the same way they got to Lea.
SpacedCowboy:
--- Quote from: Arjan on July 15, 2020, 07:40:40 AM ---White court vampires make their choice at the height of adolescence hormone levels in a setting chosen and controlled by their white court parent. They decide to have sex with someone and the demon starts feeding until the victim is killed
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I think you’re describing an act and the consequences, not an informed choice - and I think a choice without any knowledge of the consequences is no choice at all. In no way (in the only example we’ve seen) was a choice made *to become a vampire*. Inari was an innocent, and if all it took to be eternally damned was to have sex as a horny teenager, well, I’m just saying there’d be a lot of vampires around.
--- Quote from: Arjan on July 15, 2020, 07:40:40 AM ---Angels are full of free will but that does not mean well informed choices by grown up emotional stable minds. They prefer to keep you as ignorant as possible because knowledge could influence your choices.
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I .. don’t see it that way. Angels have *no* free will (something that the fallen seem pretty annoyed about, actually), and I don’t think they *prefer* to keep you ignorant. I think there are rules that angels have to follow to prevent their adversaries from also being able to act, so the “good guys” are generally limited to correcting what the “bad guys” did, but I don’t see any angelic preference for ignorance on the part of the human actors.
--- Quote from: Arjan on July 15, 2020, 07:40:40 AM --- We can also talk about the free will of the victim. She probably wanted to live but....
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Agreed, but by your own argument, (s)he made the choice (uninformed, presumably) to have sex with a vampire, so...
Personally, I can see an Angel whose job it is to fight supernatural creatures being a-ok with just harming the predator (the hunger) in this instance. I don’t think there is any attempt to harm the human by any of the swords, it’s just the consequence of being hit with a sharp pointy piece of metal while the Angel does its own job. Remove the metal, and the human gets off “scot free”.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: SpacedCowboy on July 15, 2020, 03:04:33 PM ---I think you’re describing an act and the consequences, not an informed choice - and I think a choice without any knowledge of the consequences is no choice at all. In no way (in the only example we’ve seen) was a choice made *to become a vampire*. Inari was an innocent, and if all it took to be eternally damned was to have sex as a horny teenager, well, I’m just saying there’d be a lot of vampires around.
I .. don’t see it that way. Angels have *no* free will (something that the fallen seem pretty annoyed about, actually), and I don’t think they *prefer* to keep you ignorant. I think there are rules that angels have to follow to prevent their adversaries from also being able to act, so the “good guys” are generally limited to correcting what the “bad guys” did, but I don’t see any angelic preference for ignorance on the part of the human actors.
Agreed, but by your own argument, (s)he made the choice (uninformed, presumably) to have sex with a vampire, so...
Personally, I can see an Angel whose job it is to fight supernatural creatures being a-ok with just harming the predator (the hunger) in this instance. I don’t think there is any attempt to harm the human by any of the swords, it’s just the consequence of being hit with a sharp pointy piece of metal while the Angel does its own job. Remove the metal, and the human gets off “scot free”.
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I think you misunderstood me. Angels talk about free will... For humans
When Harry needs some information to make an informed choice Uriel is not a fountain of information.
Angels do not have free will, they have purpose.
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