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Battle Ground !!!SPOILERS!!!
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on July 11, 2020, 05:29:28 AM ---The only logical conclusion is they are not available. Perhaps Winter and Summer alike are besieged. Perhaps Titania elects not to help (in her every more mysterious way). Perhaps the Gates come under major assault. Perhaps Mab is crippled somehow.
Maybe the White Council tries to help but is scattered to the wind. Maybe it's a divide and conquer thing.
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The unavailability could be political rather than tactical. Maybe something about the outcome of Peace Talks gives the Empress a legally justified cause under the Accords to declare war on Chicago. That would make it politically untenable for the Council to do anything, and literally impossible for the Fae to act if it would violate the Accords they agreed to.
The city is Marcone's territory, and he's the host of the meeting. If he's held responsible for something happening to a Fomor VIP, that could be cassus belli. Or maybe the Black Council are looking to set him up the same way they did Harry in Grave Peril - force him into a situation where he has to choose between provoking a war or crossing a line they know he won't. ('No kids'?)
But Harry can act independently of the Council on the grounds that he lives there and he's defending his home. And if they go through with kicking him out (temporarily, Christmas Eve implies), it's a degree more freedom at least.
As for Mab, she's only responsible for what she orders her Knight to do. If he chooses to get into fights on his own, he's not getting backup, but she's not going to stop him either.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 11, 2020, 08:30:44 PM ---Half the senior Council are North America, and the majority of the Wardens look to Harry now, as do the minor practitioners of the Paranet
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I don't think that's necessarily true any longer. The White Council is supposed to have continued fighting; the Fomor of course, after Harry took care of the Red Court. From their perspective Harry disappears when they're attacked by another and new major enemy. Even after Harry is reported to be alive he doesn't come back to help the Council. Instead Harry's become associated with another scary major power; and while not an enemy, Winter isn't exactly anyone's friend either. Plus, being the Winter Knight means everyone knows Harry has received a major power upgrade and that most Winter Knights are or become monsters in their own right. While I don't think the younger wardens are in league with Merlin or Cristos, I would bet many of them have doubts about Harry.
I think Harry is in a position that he will have to demonstrate who he really is in order to regain his former position of trust with the younger wardens. However, that may be somewhat easier said than done, at least judging by the short scene in the trailer where Warden Ramirez questions Harry's loyalty. If Carlos starts to distrust Harry, you can bet any other wardens Ramirez is in close contact with will soon know about it.
The members of the Paranet are probably more trusting of Harry than most members of the White Council; maybe, but maybe not. At this point I think a lot of their opinion might depend on Butters and what he's been telling his Paranet contacts after the events in Skin Game. Many of them may have become as distrusting of Harry as Butters had become. They were the ones who had been taking losses while Harry was stuck on Demonreach. My guess is only some of them trust Harry now. Plus, the whole Winter Knight thing scares a lot of people. Again, I think Harry will have to win back some people's trust.
Yuillegan:
SK - Could be that it is political. I can't really seeing the Council just allowing a slaughter of human life though...but it would be interesting if they had to choose between their mission and the Accords. I can definitely see Cristos arguing against defending Chicago. Mab would never violate her own Accords.
The problem is that Harry is representing one or both groups, and so is acting as proxy. While it's possible he is going all lone wolf, I think the Council and/or Mab would stop him from interfering. Mab would hardly need to try as I suspect him disobeying her would rob him of his mantle and paralyze him. In theory, Harry could act independently of the Council. In practice (especially considering the political maneuvering against him) he likely would give them all the excuse they need to either lock him up or execute him. Harry is balanced on a knife edge right now. Mab might not stop him from doing his own thing per se, but she might actively thwart him from interfering with the functioning of her Accords. She takes that sort of thing personally.
It could be though that the Empress justifies her war as it is against Marcone who is the self-styled Baron of Chicago. Him being a Freeholding Lord might give her that opening. It is "his" city after all. I agree that it feels like a set-up to justify a war is coming. Just like Grave Peril. Reminds me of how the Red Court had been preparing to strike anyhow and Harry just lit the touchpaper. It certainly would be more interesting if it is Marcone who has to make the choice.
KutinStGeorge - Agreed. Harry isn't what he was in the Council anymore. He has a lot of work to do if he wants to clean up his image (and Harry isn't exactly a PR wizard ;) )
Mira:
--- Quote ---SK - Could be that it is political. I can't really seeing the Council just allowing a slaughter of human life though...but it would be interesting if they had to choose between their mission and the Accords. I can definitely see Cristos arguing against defending Chicago. Mab would never violate her own Accords.
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Actually there is a hint in Christmas Eve that that is exactly what happened, or something very close.
I believe it was Molly who said to Harry, and I am paraphrasing, "you tried to tell them but they wouldn't listen." That goes along with what Rashid said to Harry back in Turn Coat, "now is not the time for you to confront the Council," implying strongly that at some point in the future he will have to. So they don't listen when it could be dealt with, and Harry is forced to go it alone with the one thing he can do, and this is sort of born out by the trailer when Eb says something to the effect it is insane for him to attempt it, but Harry is forced to invoke the Darkhallow, gain godlike powers because that is the only way one mortal can stop a Titian, and though he saves the world, a lot of lives are going to be lost as a result.
Conspiracy Theorist:
I noted the line in Turncoat during my recent re-read, but don’t think Harry would Darkhallow in Battle Field as it would kill the people of Chicago. He has the tools to take on the Titan at Demonreach, as well as the necessary skills and knowledge. I also think that when he does use the Darkhallow, it will be on a battlefield of his choosing. The overrun gates spring to mind, or Demonreach, or New Jersey not the City. I also think he won’t use it for himself, he will elevate someone else ( I always imagine a Galactus sized and hungry Toot, off to find the Discworld)
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