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Christmas Eve and Peace Talks theory (spoilers)

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Wrane:
I don't think Murph can take the Summer Knight mantle;  one of the prerequisites was a bond with someone close in the court of the faeries.  Murph doesn't have one.

Mira:


   Just reread Christmas Eve.   The blurb before it Jim says originally he was going to make it after Skin Game, but changed it to after Peace Talks/Battleground and warned of spoiler implications..

Here is what I got out of it reading it again...

Michael knows now what Molly is, he is sad about it but accepting it is what it is.   

On the subject of death and the lasting image of blood on the asphalt, lots of death, but I believe that is a reference to a specific death.  Given the depth of Harry's sorrow, the efforts of both Mab[for her] and Kringle to bring cheer and comfort, yeah, wouldn't be surprised if Murphy was dead, maybe Thomas and Eb as well... If not all three, at least one of them does die...  Good news, little Maggie and Mouse survive.

vultur:
I don't think "Christmas Eve" requires that Harry and Murphy's relationship end, just that they're not living together.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 08, 2020, 04:13:19 PM ---Snakeboy’s death curse “die alone!” Will probably mean Harry will never have a long-term romantic relationship.
--- End quote ---

I think that curse is resolved, with Harry's death alone on the boat at the end of Changes.

Summer Knight for Murphy is quite possible, given that from CD the Summer Knight is a protector, not an assassin. But it still doesn't feel quite right to me. And as Mira said, I'm not sure being SK would have prevented Murphy being there.

I'm not sure her being a Valkyrie would be an issue for Harry and Murphy. Odin isn't at odds with Winter.

The implication of Murphy being dead seems too obvious to be true (although maybe that is just wishful thinking). I'm leaning toward Jim's 'Murphy's funeral' comment being a technically-true-but-misleading one like 'Harry knowing who to offer the swords to' in SmF.

IE, Murphy's death is faked (possibly to join some super-secret government organization that deals with the supernatural, possibly because she's wanted for murder and needs to disappear).

Mira:

--- Quote ---The implication of Murphy being dead seems too obvious to be true (although maybe that is just wishful thinking). I'm leaning toward Jim's 'Murphy's funeral' comment being a technically-true-but-misleading one like 'Harry knowing who to offer the swords to' in SmF.
--- End quote ---

  Not going by that, it is the grief, the PTSD imagery,  the flashback Harry has of "blood on the asphalt."  Now yes, he could be simply seeing the aftermath of the whole battlefield, however I don't think so.  Say what you want about Mab, but she was attempting what is for her an act of kindness.  She knows Harry wouldn't accept anything from her, so she gave a gift to Maggie on the suggestion of Sarissa.  Kringle also went out of his way to give Harry a meaningful gift, one from a happy innocent time.  All of that adds up to a death or deaths of significance to Harry.  I can think of three people not present in the story that could bring him that kind of sorrow, Eb, Thomas, and Murphy.  From the trailer alone one of them or all three of them maybe dead.  Now intriguing, aside from the music, what was the "power" that Maggie would have for a few hours?  Now could she bring back one of the dead?

--- Quote ---I'm not sure her being a Valkyrie would be an issue for Harry and Murphy. Odin isn't at odds with Winter.
--- End quote ---

She still would be dead,  that may be an issue for both of them.

Conspiracy Theorist:
If Murphy goes Valkyrie her life will be as much as her own as Harry’s is as the Winter knight i.e. not at all.

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