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Christmas Eve and Peace Talks theory (spoilers)
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 10, 2020, 01:54:14 PM ---Murphy isn’t a typical mortal, she is a former Knight of the Cross, and the White God also looks out for their own, so Valkyrie is a distinct possibility, especially given the four hyper powerful White God artifacts in Harry’s Possession including the true Shroud (which Harry has not even raised with Murphy when discussing magical cures) associated with the Swords. Harry resurrecting Murphy and it turning out different to how he thought it would is just typical of Harry, Murphy alive but them being unable to be together in the biblical sense.
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Key phrase back in Death Masks, at least as far as the Shroud goes, "It was not meant to be used in that way." I also don't recall any magical "cures" related to the Swords. So I very much doubt that Harry would use any of those artifacts in that way. As for resurrecting Murphy, that gets into Kemmler territory and is strictly forbidden by the White Council, and is it's own slippery slope, so I doubt Harry would do that. So if Murphy is killed, yes, she may get to go to Valhalla and become a Einherjar, but then she'd no longer be the Murphy we all know and love... So if she is killed, I still think the best outcome would be for her to work with her father for Uriel. As far as the Almighty is concerned that last outcome might be the best for her in His eyes.
Arjan:
Uriel and company are not that interested in keeping you alive, they are mostly interested in your soul.
I do not think Jim will heal her. There are ways to do it if he really wants to but I think this is his way to pension her off. She will give council, talk to Harry and be his lover but that is it.
Of course Jim can do it. a deal with some powerful Sidhe would do it, no need to deal with coins. Or Harry can throw it in as a price for doing something. Maybe killing a titan under the right circumstances can be utilized to do something, there is a lot of power involved in that.
Or being so close to Harry with all his magic simply accellerates your healing. Listen to wind can help, maybe not with complete healing but with help to reduce the damage.
Listen to wind is a shapeshifter. What he probably can do is magically support her body. Not a long term solution but great for the short time, say until dawn. good for a big suprise. The alpha's can do some healing with their abilities. Listen to wind is better.
Conspiracy Theorist:
In Death Masks, the shroud was a fake, Harry has the real one. I think the set was used 1.the Crown of Thorns to neutralise power like thorn manacles on a much larger scale, 2. The placard to protect the process from Nemesis, 3. Longinus blade to kill part of the white god and let out The Nemesis infection, 4. The grail to neutralise the infection, 5. The Shroud to resurrect the son, recreating the White god in full.
The more powerful the Nemfected entity, the greater the measures required, Lea could be saved, Maeve could not without exposing Mab
vultur:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 10, 2020, 06:47:06 PM ---The more powerful the Nemfected entity, the greater the measures required, Lea could be saved, Maeve could not without exposing Mab
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But Lea is more powerful than Maeve was...
Lea was fighting the infection at some level. Maeve bought into it.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 10, 2020, 06:47:06 PM ---In Death Masks, the shroud was a fake, Harry has the real one. I think the set was used 1.the Crown of Thorns to neutralise power like thorn manacles on a much larger scale, 2. The placard to protect the process from Nemesis, 3. Longinus blade to kill part of the white god and let out The Nemesis infection, 4. The grail to neutralise the infection, 5. The Shroud to resurrect the son, recreating the White god in full.
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That isn't the point, it didn't matter if it was fake or not, the message was those relics were not meant to be used for healing.
--- Quote ---Uriel and company are not that interested in keeping you alive, they are mostly interested in your soul.
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Exactly, if Murphy dies, he has a job for her soul along side her father.
--- Quote ---I do not think Jim will heal her. There are ways to do it if he really wants to but I think this is his way to pension her off. She will give council, talk to Harry and be his lover but that is it.
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Problem with that Murphy isn't Michael. Where as Michael is happy with God's retirement plan. I don't think Murphy will ever accept it. Her cutting off that cast in the trailer is an example of it. I am not sure that making Murphy a wisdom guru is the best idea for her either.
--- Quote ---Of course Jim can do it. a deal with some powerful Sidhe would do it, no need to deal with coins. Or Harry can throw it in as a price for doing something. Maybe killing a titan under the right circumstances can be utilized to do something, there is a lot of power involved in that.
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And always a price, which may be why Murphy isn't helping Harry put that bike together on Christmas Eve.
--- Quote ---Listen to wind is a shapeshifter. What he probably can do is magically support her body. Not a long term solution but great for the short time, say until dawn. good for a big suprise. The alpha's can do some healing with their abilities. Listen to wind is better.
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I think that is a reach.. Listen to Wind is a medicine man/shaman and a real medical doctor, most of the treatments we've seen him perform have been standard medical care. The closest to magical "cures" though it was mostly to stop pain was the thing that Eb put on Harry's wrist when it was so badly burned by Mavra back in Blood Rites.. However if it did any healing, it was very little. The Alphas are shape shifters as is Listen to Wind, but it is their own bodies they manipulate not that of others.
--- Quote ---But Lea is more powerful than Maeve was...
Lea was fighting the infection at some level. Maeve bought into it.
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Mab also became aware of the infection in Lea soon enough to treat it, what is more for Lea to
still be aware enough to let her treated. In Maeve's case it had just gone too far and had taken
over and the only solution for her was death.
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