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WAG McCoy [SPOILERS PT Ch4 + mf "Journal"]
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on July 02, 2020, 03:38:30 PM ---Harry had the habit of keeping people safe by keeping people ignorant and telling them to stay out of it. That can backfire.
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Very true, but his motives were still to keep the person safe.
Arjan:
Another thing to keep into consideration is that the Susan in Grave Peril and before is not exactly the same Susan as the one we see in Changes. They both learned a lot and they both got older. Their perceptions and priorities changed and they had true love, technically broken by Harry with Lucio but I do not think that made that much of a difference emotionally when they met again. That love must have colored everything they felt about each other.
So to understand Susan in Changes we must not look too much at the Susan before Grave Peril, that was very long ago for her, but look at the Susan in Changes. What that Susan drove was the same as what Harry drove, an all consuming wish to protect their daughter. She wanted to defend her actions, most of us do, but she mostly wanted that past out of the way as soon as possible to start what was really important.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on July 03, 2020, 07:13:06 AM ---Another thing to keep into consideration is that the Susan in Grave Peril and before is not exactly the same Susan as the one we see in Changes. They both learned a lot and they both got older. Their perceptions and priorities changed and they had true love, technically broken by Harry with Lucio but I do not think that made that much of a difference emotionally when they met again. That love must have colored everything they felt about each other.
So to understand Susan in Changes we must not look too much at the Susan before Grave Peril, that was very long ago for her, but look at the Susan in Changes. What that Susan drove was the same as what Harry drove, an all consuming wish to protect their daughter. She wanted to defend her actions, most of us do, but she mostly wanted that past out of the way as soon as possible to start what was really important.
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You are discounting the influence of Martin in all of this. Remember he was a long time setting all of this up. Susan felt she owed everything to him after she was turned, who knows how much poisoning he did to her mind to keep Harry out of it.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Mira on July 02, 2020, 11:58:07 PM ---Very true, but his motives were still to keep the person safe.
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In a broad sense he has kept Chicago safe, but his friends haven't fared all that well. And the books would be dull if it were otherwise.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on July 04, 2020, 02:02:08 PM ---In a broad sense he has kept Chicago safe, but his friends haven't fared all that well. And the books would be dull if it were otherwise.
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That is also very true, however none of that absolves Susan from not telling Harry he was going to become a father in the first place. Yes, no one can be more stubborn than Harry about most things. However at the same time there is a humility about him, that is why he takes so much responsibility and guilt upon himself when things go wrong. If Susan had told him and used good sound logic as to why the child was better off not being anywhere near him. I believe Harry would have gone along with it, he may not have liked it, it may have given him more pain and sorrow, but I don't think he would have opposed her.
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