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WAG McCoy [SPOILERS PT Ch4 + mf "Journal"]
Mira:
--- Quote ---Fear of rejection and guilt for not involving Harry in her child. It makes more aggressive people lash out to silence all objections. She was not blaming Harry for her own choices, she was trying to defend them and part of that was telling Harry some things. Hurtful things no doubt but that happens. It is a wild cocktail of emotions for both of them but bitterness is not the driving force.
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Oh I think there was some resentment there on Susan's part, it is to be expected. The key is Susan never even gave Harry a chance for input by not telling him that she was going to have a baby in the first place. It is part of a pattern with her from the get go she always thought she knew better. While it may be true that being around Harry can be dangerous, Harry was always the one who tried to warn her about what was dangerous, stay away, and she ignored him. Her logic about not telling him doesn't compute because it doesn't follow that Harry would insist that she and the baby come to live with him. She never gave him the chance to help make that decision.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 30, 2020, 02:15:45 PM ---Oh I think there was some resentment there on Susan's part, it is to be expected. The key is Susan never even gave Harry a chance for input by not telling him that she was going to have a baby in the first place. It is part of a pattern with her from the get go she always thought she knew better. While it may be true that being around Harry can be dangerous, Harry was always the one who tried to warn her about what was dangerous, stay away, and she ignored him. Her logic about not telling him doesn't compute because it doesn't follow that Harry would insist that she and the baby come to live with him. She never gave him the chance to help make that decision.
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Harry is not the beginning and end of all wisdom. You can actually disagree with him without being stupid, ignorant and, I can dot really translate the dutch word, opinionated pigheaded bad-ass cocky?
The point is she was acting on her motherly instincts and rationalized it later as we often do. And one of those instincts is that you know best how to raise your child even if you are wrong. It is one of the reasons parents fight. It is the reason she took that decision. It was wrong but certain kwalifications are just not fair.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on June 30, 2020, 03:50:05 PM ---Harry is not the beginning and end of all wisdom. You can actually disagree with him without being stupid, ignorant and, I can dot really translate the dutch word, opinionated pigheaded bad-ass cocky?
The point is she was acting on her motherly instincts and rationalized it later as we often do. And one of those instincts is that you know best how to raise your child even if you are wrong. It is one of the reasons parents fight. It is the reason she took that decision. It was wrong but certain kwalifications are just not fair.
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No one is saying that Harry is a paragon, at the same time Susan is claiming if she had told Harry about the baby he would have insisted that it remain with him. That comes from her claim that the baby any one else is in danger being around him. She didn't even give him a chance to have a say about a baby he helped create, also the assumption that he would refuse to listen to any reason that the baby would be better off with her. However the truth is more like the baby was safe with neither of them. Susan's motherly instinct to keep in contact may be natural and understandable, but the same goes for Harry as the father.
--- Quote ---The point is she was acting on her motherly instincts and rationalized it later as we often do. And one of those instincts is that you know best how to raise your child even if you are wrong. It is one of the reasons parents fight. It is the reason she took that decision. It was wrong but certain kwalifications are just not fair.
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Some motherly instincts, life isn't fair, not letting Harry in on the knowledge or decision isn't fair either. I still don't think she made her decision solely on trying to keep the baby safe. There were steps she could have taken that would have, difficult, very true, but she didn't take them. No, her decision not to tell Harry was a lot more complicated that no one is safe around Harry.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Regenbogen on June 28, 2020, 04:19:12 PM ---Does he [Eb] feel bad about anything he did?
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WoJ and Eb in BR implies he does.
--- Quote from: 123Chikadee on June 29, 2020, 07:10:16 PM ---Correct if I'm wrong, but wasn't Harry's falling into the cracks at least a little magical, or is that just an impression I got from 'Journal'?
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I think it was explicitly stated.
In Eb's defense, he was born no later than the 1730's. He's going to have very different values than most modern parents. People routinely sent their children away to be trained by others when they were very young. Noble children were often raised as hostages. Hiding children probably doesn't seem like a drastic move when you grew up in those times.
The real problem is that you can't protect anyone from all danger. Every protection also brings its own unique dangers. I don't think coddle has any positive connotations for a reason.
Dina:
Bad Alias, you are right in that, specially around War times. Eb has seen many.
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