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WAG McCoy [SPOILERS PT Ch4 + mf "Journal"]
SerScot:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 28, 2020, 01:57:20 PM ---Yeah, his only defense was it was to keep him safe. Really? Frankly that isn't a good enough reason for Harry, not considering what he suffered because of that. Eb sort of admitted he messed up with Margaret, but only as far as his mentor-ship when she was his apprentice. Eb still either doesn't get it or won't admit that what he saw as keeping his daughter and grand son safe, is rightly seen as neglect by both of them, and as Harry said, it didn't work out very well.
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Yes.
Eb seems to discount anything but supernatural threats. If Harry were abused physically or sexually by foster parents was he “safe”? Additionally, Harry disappearing from WC circles makes Eb safer from manipulation via Harry.
So, I wonder who Eb was seeking to protect with his choice to abandon Harry?
Regenbogen:
--- Quote from: SerScot on June 28, 2020, 01:40:24 PM ---So, is anyone going to criticize Harry for calling Eb out for abandoning him to the foster care system, or, defend Eb’s choice to do just that? Eb didn’t offer any defense his actions claim he couldn’t find Harry or any other such justifications that have been offered in our discussions over the years.
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IMO Eb did what he thought was best for the survival of his family. The feelings of said family did not matter. So making Harry vanish from everyone he considered threatening at that time, did make sense, though his methods might not have been so nice. I hope he did not kill Malcolm, because I had the impression he thought M. was good for Harry. But not good enough to protect his grandson. It could be he killed him or arranged for him to be killed, but I don't want to believe that.
Harry's reaction in this chapter was completely understandable. OK, he went a bit far with the death threat.
And both of them could have been more diplomatic, but diplomacy seems to be missing in this family ;).
Let's say they both said things that were right about each other from their point of view, but they said them in a bad way.
I hope they talk a bit more later, including listening to each other.
I really would like to know if Eb was responsible for the bad parts of Harry's childhood and what he has to say about that, other than criticizing Harry's decisions.
I think Eb's choices regarding his family were to protect them. And he was showing a great deal of paranoia in it. But there was a reason for that, it wasn't completely wrong. I mean, Maggie Jr was targeted by the Red Court to get to him.
SerScot:
--- Quote from: Regenbogen on June 28, 2020, 03:52:34 PM ---IMO Eb did what he thought was best for the survival of his family. The feelings of said family did not matter. So making Harry vanish from everyone he considered threatening at that time, did make sense, though his methods might not have been so nice. I hope he did not kill Malcolm, because I had the impression he thought M. was good for Harry. But not good enough to protect his grandson. It could be he killed him or arranged for him to be killed, but I don't want to believe that.
Harry's reaction in this chapter was completely understandable. OK, he went a bit far with the death threat.
And both of them could have been more diplomatic, but diplomacy seems to be missing in this family ;).
Let's say they both said things that were right about each other from their point of view, but they said them in a bad way.
I hope they talk a bit more later, including listening to each other.
I really would like to know if Eb was responsible for the bad parts of Harry's childhood and what he has to say about that, other than criticizing Harry's decisions.
I think Eb's choices regarding his family were to protect them. And he was showing a great deal of paranoia in it. But there was a reason for that, it wasn't completely wrong. I mean, Maggie Jr was targeted by the Red Court to get to him.
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I’m not so sure. I have, from time to time, wondered if Eb is the upstanding guy we want him to be. Harry misjudges people, his instincts have been shown to be wrong.
For example Hendricks, despite Harry’s impression of him is shown in the Marcone short story to be an intellectual who dislikes Marcone’s business but is loyal to Marcone for some other unspecified reason.
What if he’s wrong about Eb too?
Regenbogen:
--- Quote from: SerScot on June 28, 2020, 04:06:28 PM ---I’m not so sure. I have, from time to time, wondered if Eb is the upstanding guy we want him to be.
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Oh, no! Yes, I have my doubts, too, but I really hope, he isn't.
What if Eb is a big evil asshole and the Merlin is actually quite nice and hates him and his ally/grandson because of that. Oh my. That would be.... Damn.
Edit: He has been the Blackstaff for a while and he has done things.
Does he feel bad about anything he did? For example dropping that satellite on Ortega's place and killing not only him but the humans around.
SerScot:
--- Quote from: Regenbogen on June 28, 2020, 04:19:12 PM ---Oh, no! Yes, I have my doubts, too, but I really hope, he isn't.
What if Eb is a big evil asshole and the Merlin is actually quite nice and hates him and his ally/grandson because of that. Oh my. That would be.... Damn.
Edit: He has been the Blackstaff for a while and he has done things.
Does he feel bad about anything he did? For example dropping that satellite on Ortega's place and killing not only him but the humans around.
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That... would be a very interesting story.
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