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Chapter 4 Drop
cleoslemonade:
This chapter helps establish a theme in the book: pros and cons of familial love/closeness/responsibility. We've got it with Thomas/UpcomingBaby, Harry/MaggieJr, Harry/Eb, Eb/Margaret Sr, and hopefully we get some more starborn creation info and get some Margaret/Harry balance.
It's a big question. Harry getting all worked up here with Eb (and his previous conflicting viewpoint in Changes) shows that he isn't sure of the answer. He's just made a choice, deciding that love is more valuable than increased physical safety.
EB's got a lot of opinions on this as well. From Margaret's rebellions, he's got to have second thoughts on it as well. It reminds me of in Bigfoot on Campus, where
(click to show/hide) Vampire Dad pushes killing on his daughter because if he admits it's wrong, he's been living his entire life wrong. Eb's in the same spot here. By admitting (even a little) that Harry should keep Maggie close, he's admitting that he was wrong to keep Margaret and Harry far, which is admitting that their emotional issues are partly his fault. If he can convince Harry (and himself) that keeping children distant is the only good option, his past actions are justified, and he was a Good Dad/Grandfather all along.
Dina:
Just a comment: I have not idea what Guatemala law is,but I would suspect is similar than here in Argentina, because most Latin America has the same kind of law. We have jus soli. If you are born here, you are an Argentinian, no matter if your parents are from USA or China.
That said, we don't know where Maggie was born and where she was "formalized" with a document or something
Another complication is I don't remember what happened with Harry while he was "dead". Was he officially dead? But if he is officially alive there is no doubt that he has the rights.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on June 25, 2020, 06:04:02 PM ---Just a comment: I have not idea what Guatemala law is,but I would suspect is similar than here in Argentina, because most Latin America has the same kind of law. We have jus soli. If you are born here, you are an Argentinian, no matter if your parents are from USA or China.
That said, we don't know where Maggie was born and where she was "formalized" with a document or something
Another complication is I don't remember what happened with Harry while he was "dead". Was he officially dead? But if he is officially alive there is no doubt that he has the rights.
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Like I said, chance for duel citizenship down the road if she wants it. Same here if you are born here you are American no matter what the parents are. Now this question for you Dina, if you and your husband came here to visit and you had a baby, would it be Argentinian since I assume you are both citizens of Argentina or American since it was born here, or would it have a shot at both?
On the other, Harry's body wasn't found, so I imagine he is officially missing and given the blood evidence on the deck, assumed dead. However assumed means he could be slightly alive, the law I think for "officially dead," is seven years if no other evidence turns up. But I don't know what it is in Illinois if no body is found and is merely missing.
--- Quote ---Eb's in the same spot here. By admitting (even a little) that Harry should keep Maggie close, he's admitting that he was wrong to keep Margaret and Harry far, which is admitting that their emotional issues are partly his fault. If he can convince Harry (and himself) that keeping children distant is the only good option, his past actions are justified, and he was a Good Dad/Grandfather all along.
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Excellent point, I agree Eb does carry a lot of guilt over it as well.
SpacedCowboy:
Re: citizenship ... I'm British, my wife is American, and my son was born in the US. So assuming that we retire back to the UK because of the inordinate cost of healthcare here in the US..
* my wife gets to claim British citizenship by right of marriage (after 3 years living there) and has American citizenship by right of birth
* my son has British Citizenship by right of descent, and American citizenship by right of birthThe only one who doesn't get to paddle in two pools is me :(
Getting back to Susan, we know she moved around a lot after leaving Harry, AFAIK there's no WOJ or anything in the books (although I'm not there yet on my re-read) to say specifically where Maggie was born, although it was probably not in the US.
I'm also reasonably sure that any child agency will look at Harry living with his own biological daughter, and maybe issue a 'slap on the wrist' for the unorthodox way that ended up, but say "all's well that ends well" and move on to cases where they really do need to intervene.
123Chikadee:
@Dina: I can't quite remember what was said about Harry's post death, but I think he's been getting things together again. Though now that I think about it, the fact that he's been mysteriously dead/vanished for a year and w/ no way to tell mortal authorities what happened, I don't think that would look too good for his record. Sure, he could try to get custody, but he probably won't.
@Mira: Yeah I'm not too sure what the Illinois law has to say that.
@SpacedCowboy: Neat, I didn't know that. :) Well thing is, I think they'll take a look at Harry's history and decide that they do need to intervene.
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