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Chapter 4 Drop
Dina:
yuile, Demonreach is not a place for a child. Remember how his adult friends suffered here. Maggie wouldn't be able to live there. And again, Harry had several responsabilities.
And yes, he said hurtful things to Eb, that was totally wrong.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Dina on June 24, 2020, 09:22:58 AM ---yuile, Demonreach is not a place for a child. Remember how his adult friends suffered here. Maggie wouldn't be able to live there. And again, Harry had several responsabilities.
And yes, he said hurtful things to Eb, that was totally wrong.
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And Eb did not handle him as an adult. It is a great way to make Harry behave as an angry adolescent.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Arjan on June 24, 2020, 09:45:23 AM ---And Eb did not handle him as an adult. It is a great way to make Harry behave as an angry adolescent.
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Thank you, I couldn't have said it better. If Eb had been in better control of himself and hadn't been
so angry when he saw little Maggie it may have turned out better. But he didn't, he never told Harry about his relationship to himself when Harry first went to live with him after Justin died. The only love Harry ever got came from his father who died when he was six. For the next five or six years
he is abandoned in an orphanage, physical needs taken care of, but no love, then Justin latches on to him to use him for his own purposes. So built up resentment on Harry's part? Hell yeah.. Also never tell a parent how to raise their own kid, not saying that sometimes you shouldn't but it has
to be done with tact or otherwise all you get is push back whether you are right or not. Given how his own childhood went, angry resentment is the only way Harry could react. I still say it was a real
low blow on Eb's part to call Harry the common denominator in the deaths of his parents and Susan.
True maybe, but a low low blow on Eb's part.. How about Eb's own neglect? That too is a common denominator, include in that his failure to tell Harry the truth when he went to live with him. Hell, he didn't tell Harry he was his grandfather back in Blood Rites.. Harry only knows he doesn't want his daughter raised how he was, without love..
Arjan:
The proper way is probably to ask each other questions and listen to their explanations but that would give too much of the plot away. Now we will get all kinds of misunderstandings to drive the plot even further.
Sometimes that feels somewhat forced. Have some pancakes and tea and chat a bit.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 23, 2020, 11:30:57 PM ---I think you are totally missing the point, it doesn't matter how old Margaret was when she died. If Eb had been a parent when she was growing up, she may have never developed the resentment that made her apprenticeship with him such a disaster, nor ultimately causing her to rebel the way she did. Heck, she might even be still alive but for that.
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And Harry wouldn't have been born and there would be no Dresden Files. Which is all neither here nor there. If his point was to get her to an age where she could protect herself then Eb achieved what he set out to do.
--- Quote ---Total cheap shot, for starters was it the infant Harry's fault that Lord Raith killed his mother? Really? How much say does a six year old have in his father's living or dying by natural causes or other? As for Susan, while Harry had very little say there as well, he didn't even know Maggie existed, and Susan came to him to save her. Actually if anyone is the blame there it would be Eb, the reason behind the kidnapping was to do the generational spell to bump him off in the first place.
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This has nothing to do with blame or responsibility. Any more then the Small Pox virus holds any moral responsibility because someone dies when exposed to the virus. None the less, if you catch it you die. It is what it is. Harry is a walking zone of death because of what he is. He didn't choose to be that thing, but that doesn't change what he is.
--- Quote ---You never know..Actually he did let her decide, he tried to treasure her, Mouse lent support and protection, but at no point was she forced to come out. Again once Eb heard the sound coming from her room Harry had very little choice, because Eb was so on edge he was ready to storm the room staff a blazing, all Harry could do was defuse the situation by introducing her.
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All I said was that choosing to let Maggie control when she would choose to talk to Eb was a good choice. Maybe.
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