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Mira:

--- Quote ---Harry's wrong on one count.  Margaret died at or around 180.  So in that sense Eb achieved his goal. Nobody took a run at her when she was ten. And Eb took responsibility for what she became.

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I think you are totally missing the point, it doesn't matter how old Margaret was when she died.  If Eb had been a parent when she was growing up, she may have never developed the resentment that made her apprenticeship with him such a disaster, nor ultimately causing her to rebel the way she did.  Heck, she might even be still alive but for that.

--- Quote ---And Eb is right, in that, Harry's existence is the cause of the deaths of his family and Susan.
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Total cheap shot, for starters was it the infant Harry's fault that Lord Raith killed his mother?  Really? How much say does a six year old have in his father's living or dying by natural causes or other?  As for Susan, while Harry had very little say there as well, he didn't even know Maggie existed, and Susan came to him to save her.  Actually if anyone is the blame there it would be Eb, the reason behind the kidnapping was to do the generational spell to bump him off in the first place.

--- Quote ---A little foreshadowing if you needed it.  Does anyone think that Eb is coming to Christmas dinner at the Carpenters?

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You never know..

--- Quote ---If little Maggie is traumatized then Harry might have been wiser to let her decide if she wants to come out.  Maybe. 
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Actually he did let her decide, he tried to treasure her, Mouse lent support and protection, but at no point was she forced to come out.  Again once Eb heard the sound coming from her room Harry had very little choice, because Eb was so on edge he was ready to storm the room staff a blazing, all Harry could do was defuse the situation by introducing her.

Dina:
I agree with Mira. And just one thing
(click to show/hide)I think Maggie needed to know Eb. She should have met him before, actually.
About Christmas, of course I don't believe (click to show/hide)he is coming to dinner, that is a straight foreshadowing of him being dead at that moment. Still, my main fear about that story is that Mister is not mentioned.

123Chikadee:
@Walter the Skull: Yeah and now that I think on it, they do have some shadiness to them.
@Mira: So many good points. If Eb had done a better job raising her she could have ended up in a different place. But there comes a time when an adult has to stop laying the blame of their bad choices on their parents.
Oh a definite cheap shot. Like, I didn't expect him to say that. I reeled back when I read that. You know, I bet Eb knew that she was targeted due to him and this is just (hopefully) lashing out and he does need to apologize for that.
Maybe he does. As much as I love to see the drama, I need to see the make up too.
Oh, yeah good point about Maggie. Sheesh, is it just the svartalves, Thomas, or WC business that's got him so jumpy. Lol answered my own question. Huh, I guess he's just feeling really wrong footed.
@Dina: Yeah, I'm wondering why they didn't meet sooner and yes that is some total foreshadowing.

knightedbishop:
A lot of shading of Ebenezer's character that I enjoyed. Which I wager ups the likelihood of his death being imminent. How and its impact are up in the air. It will be the second senior council member lost in a short span (as far as wizard life times go), and the Blackstaff at that. The Council will go into upheaval as wizards jockey to fill the power vacuum left behind. This may be the beginning of the end for the White Council as it has existed. Losing McCoy and/or a vote to expel Harry are more than enough to lead to a schism.

McCoy is old and set in his way. He reminds me of my grandfather. He was a product of the life he lived, which is very different from mine. He spouted horribly racist things, but hired a lot of Black people to work for his company at a time that was not the norm. He spouted horribly anti-gay things, but came to love my husband like his own son. McCoy thought he was doing the right thing. To have his judgment questioned by someone else- probably when he's questioning it himself, is sure to ruffle his feathers.

Old prejudices die hard. And McCoy has had multiple lifetimes from a mundane perspective to develop them. Whampires, svartalves... I think McCoy has a human-centric perspective, where Harry is much more willing to take allies and make friends where he can get them. McCoy spent his whole life protecting humans against supernatural threats. I think any supernatural race had plenty of time to cross him and get on his naughty list. Not surprised he has issues with the svartalves. At this point I'd be surprised to hear of anyone McCoy doesn't have issues with.

I also think this showed Harry's growth too. He expressed himself clearly and without devolving to shouting, shooting, or storming off. Sure, the exchange got heated, but there was no actual fire summoned. And ultimately he's right. It's his choice how to raise his child. And as others have pointed out, he destroyed the entire species of the last villain who tried to harm his daughter. He's killed multiple immortals. Only a fool thinks coming at Maggie is a good idea- like Nicodemus, who was goaded to rage by Harry after murdering Deirdre. And look how well that ended for Nicodemus.

Dina:
Yes, I believe Maggie is safer with Harry than without him. I see the point of having her wth the Carpenters, but Maggie needs a dad. And Harry has many enemies but he also has several allies. He even has human friends, and remember, humans are the nukes for the supernatural world. Besides, Harry¿s reputation of hothead and not easy to predict would probably make anyone think or twice about attacking Maggie. Consequences are not easy to foresee

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