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toodeep:
--- Quote from: Mira on June 18, 2020, 02:21:14 PM --- That is also true, now however he has both fire and ice.. If I remember correctly though I cannot place the short story it came from he also has "earth." He pulled power from the earth itself, I think he said it was one of the most dangerous and hard to control.
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Harry's command of earth has been really on again/off again. In one of the earlier books, his sword cane was enchanted to help with earth magic, and I thought there was a quote that it was one of his stronger suites. But then he proceeded to not use it much after that. We have three examples - the ferromancy in the wraith deeps that pulled a wall of magma from the ground to hold back the ghouls, a minor case of the magnify/localize gravity used in the short story "it's my birthday" to kill a new black court vampire, and then a major use of the gravity spell at Chicken pizza where he also tapped a lay line and used it to crush a small army of crazy red court vamps. Meanwhile, he uses fire, air, and force almost every book, and now uses ice liberally as well. I don't think we've ever seen him use water, have we?
g33k:
--- Quote from: toodeep on June 18, 2020, 05:44:22 PM --- Harry's command of earth has been really on again/off again. In one of the earlier books, his sword cane was enchanted to help with earth magic, and I thought there was a quote that it was one of his stronger suites. But then he proceeded to not use it much after that. We have three examples - the ferromancy in the wraith deeps that pulled a wall of magma from the ground to hold back the ghouls, a minor case of the magnify/localize gravity used in the short story "it's my birthday" to kill a new black court vampire, and then a major use of the gravity spell at Chicken pizza where he also tapped a lay line and used it to crush a small army of crazy red court vamps. Meanwhile, he uses fire, air, and force almost every book, and now uses ice liberally as well. I don't think we've ever seen him use water, have we?
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I think ley-line magic -- whatever the spell that gets cast with ley-power -- always has an earth-magic component.
I don't think we've seen Harry use water spells, though. Harry believes running water disperses magic; and so it does, for him. Ramirez has strong aquamancy, I think, and he may not be as limited as Harry, in this regard. Did we see Harry summon up water spirits? Maybe when searching for Maggie? Or in flashback of searching for Elaine (in the post-Justin timeframe)?
Mira:
--- Quote from: toodeep on June 18, 2020, 05:44:22 PM ---Harry's command of earth has been really on again/off again. In one of the earlier books, his sword cane was enchanted to help with earth magic, and I thought there was a quote that it was one of his stronger suites. But then he proceeded to not use it much after that. We have three examples - the ferromancy in the wraith deeps that pulled a wall of magma from the ground to hold back the ghouls, a minor case of the magnify/localize gravity used in the short story "it's my birthday" to kill a new black court vampire, and then a major use of the gravity spell at Chicken pizza where he also tapped a lay line and used it to crush a small army of crazy red court vamps. Meanwhile, he uses fire, air, and force almost every book, and now uses ice liberally as well. I don't think we've ever seen him use water, have we?
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I think it depends on what the ice is made of. Ice can be water, it can be methane or several other elements. So Harry's ice magic can also be water magic.
morriswalters:
Water damps magic, it's the reason why Demonreach is built in the lake. Given that mechanic I doubt that Harry will be throwing fire hose streams of water. Neither does he directly manipulate matter in most cases. I assumed earth magic to be a method of tapping the energy in the tectonic plates. And I believe that is Eb's specialty.
magical_liopleurodon:
--- Quote from: g33k on June 18, 2020, 06:31:22 PM ---I think ley-line magic -- whatever the spell that gets cast with ley-power -- always has an earth-magic component.
I don't think we've seen Harry use water spells, though. Harry believes running water disperses magic; and so it does, for him. Ramirez has strong aquamancy, I think, and he may not be as limited as Harry, in this regard. Did we see Harry summon up water spirits? Maybe when searching for Maggie? Or in flashback of searching for Elaine (in the post-Justin timeframe)?
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He might have used water magic once --- when he was battling Demonreach with the elements
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