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Mira:
--- Quote from: g33k on May 27, 2020, 09:06:10 PM ---Not necessarily:
* Margaret could easily have grabbed a fair bit of cash and/or other resources, in departing from Papa's.
* As an experienced and powerful WC practitioner, she may well have had accounts she had set up in case she needed resources.
* Last but not least, the perennial "how do wizards earn money" thread(s) give us lots of options whereby Margaret could have easily earned plenty to live on.But it's strongly implied that Malcom was pretty poor, as Harry was growing up. So all of Margaret's financial contributions -- if any -- were on an ad-hoc basis, rather than investments/accounts that could be used on an ongoing basis.
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Maybe, but she may have lost all her finances when she gave up her old life. Also I am willing to bet
that Malcolm is who Harry gets his old fashioned ideas about how to treat women from. Malcolm would want to be the bread winner.. Not only that, but it sounds like Margaret wasn't pardoned by the White Council, so she'd have to keep a pretty low profile.
123Chikadee:
@Mira: I'm thinking that Margaret was starting to regret how her life turned out before she met Malcolm and wanted out but needed some type of plan for it. Then she met Malcolm and fell for him.
Yeah that 'plan' was never really elaborated on, but I could very well be wrong.
I think we're in agreement about the ways of killing Malcolm are many. :). (I shouldn't put a smile-y there, he dies after all, lol)
@g33k: Better show that thread to Harry, lol.
Mira:
--- Quote from: 123Chikadee on May 27, 2020, 09:41:41 PM ---@Mira: I'm thinking that Margaret was starting to regret how her life turned out before she met Malcolm and wanted out but needed some type of plan for it. Then she met Malcolm and fell for him.
Yeah that 'plan' was never really elaborated on, but I could very well be wrong.
I think we're in agreement about the ways of killing Malcolm are many. :). (I shouldn't put a smile-y there, he dies after all, lol)
@g33k: Better show that thread to Harry, lol.
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However there is no evidence that Margaret regretted her life before she met Malcolm. But you could be right, the way it is written in Blood Rites is a bit ambitious. Eb says she turned away from her old life, Justin etc, was on the run for a couple of years, Wardens had orders to arrest her on sight for immediate trial and execution, Eb also had orders but he never said what they were.. Harry asks what happened? Eb simply answers that she met Malcolm and what a good soul he had.
However it isn't clear why she began to run, did she truly begin to regret? Or was the heat getting too great and she had to get out of the kitchen? Did meeting Malcolm begin her transformation or merely finish a job well on it's way?
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: 123Chikadee ---The only thing is, that if Malcolm and Margaret were in love, then Lara or any other WCV wouldn't be able to feed from him. Though Lara could use a catspaw to assassinate him, so the point still stands. I like this idea a lot.
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My idea is that the act of love breaks the hold Raith had on her.
The meeting mentioned in Changes was to sell an idea(in my WAG), creating a Starborn. Here's the relevant text.
--- Quote from: Changes ---They had some scheme they wanted my support on. The vampires thought I was just Maggie’s mentor, then.” He sighed. “I wanted nothing to do with it. Said she shouldn’t want it, either. And we fought.”
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A reaction you might expect if the object of the exercise was to be his grandson.
The backstory has pretty consistently been that Harry is dangerous on an existential level. The Council fears him, and had Morgan dog him and the Black Staff prepared to kill him. The whole point of Proven Guilty is to kill Harry and only the intervention of Mab and Uriel prevent it. He's watched constantly. The very act of Harry discovering the name of the Adversary changes the path to the future.
So my WAG sees Margaret, under the control of Raith, attempt to create a weapon. Jim teases it's name, Destroyer. The timing of Margaret's introduction is up in the air. Here's the text.
--- Quote from: Dead Beat ---"She did," Ebenezar confirmed. "I don't know why, but for some reason she turned away from her previous associates—including Justin DuMorne. After that, nowhere was safe for her. She ran from her former allies and from the Wardens for perhaps two years. And she ran from me. I had my orders regarding her as well."
I stared at him in pained fascination. "What happened?"
"She met your father. A man. A mortal, without powers, without influence, without resources. But a man with a good soul, like few I have ever seen. I believe that she fell in love with him. But on the night you were born, one of her former allies found her and exacted his vengeance for her desertion." He looked up at me directly and said, "He used an entropy curse. A ritual entropy curse."
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The text is neutral to the timing of the meeting, but when describing the time from the period when she ran, Eb says that she ran from him for those two years(approximate). So Eb would have had to see him before she ran or after she was dead. For the WAG I choose before.
You can argue any number of things but my next quote is at the core of my WAG.
--- Quote ---She touched my face again and said, "I was so arrogant. I laid too great a burden upon you to bear alone. I hope that one day you will forgive me my mistake. But know that I am proud of what you have become. I love you, child."
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Whatever was done to Harry she felt guilt over it.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Whatever was done to Harry she felt guilt over it.
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That one isn't hard to figure out, it is the same guilt that Malcolm felt. They conceived a star child, that put a huge burden on Harry before he even drew his first breath. The fate of mankind could very well rest on his shoulders someday, and he didn't ask for any of it. That is the kind of thing that makes a loving parent feel guilty.
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