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morriswalters:
Very tenuously supported. Two points. First Eb had met Malcolm, says he was gentle. And he attended a meeting with Margaret discussing a plan. Margaret breaks with Raith and bails, two years or so she has Harry and dies. Eb never says where he saw Malcolm and it's never revealed how Margaret broke away.
Eb met Malcolm at that same meeting. The meeting was about producing a child as a Starborn. Malcolm is a scion of an angel. Eb objects but Margaret says to hell with it since she is under the influence of Raith and has the baby anyway and falls for Malcolm releasing her from Raith's control. True love. Possibly Malcolm was himself controlled by Raith.
Pregnant and having to scoot, she leaves Thomas but not before connecting Thomas and an unborn Harry so that when she throws her death curse it can be powered by them instead of her life force. She goes into deep Winter under Lea's protection and loses a year while Harry comes to term. And leaves Winter via a portal in the Lincoln Monument. She gets the protection for Harry by telling Lea who has the Atheme. Lea sells out Malcolm to the Whites when Harry is six. And just to make it a real pot boiler, Lara does the deed and leaves Malcolm smiling. :o
It reads like a cheesy potboiler and I don't know if it is reasonable or not. But it connects the dots without tearing the fabric too badly. Feel free to rip it a new one. 48 days to Peace Talks
Con:
I've always thought she met Malcolm on the minor talent circuit. A precusorser to the Paranet we know malcolm was an amateur magician stands to reason he'd be interested by actual magic.
I do think Malcolm is on the side of the angels he only appears to harry after Lasciel acts and reavhes out to influence harry.
He as much says so.
"So." I said "Why heaven I dreamed about you before"
"Because I wasn't allowed to contact you before" my father said easily "not until others had crossed the line"
Thats basically Urirls calling card only reacting in response. Clearly meaning lasciels shadow in response harry gets some light by a campfire with hia father.
The fact that we find Murphys Dad in the Chicago in Between Purgatory squad is an even bigger hint. Captain Murphy insists on no messages from beyond the grave to his daughter. Presumably malcolm has similar rules he has to follow.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Very tenuously supported. Two points. First Eb had met Malcolm, says he was gentle. And he attended a meeting with Margaret discussing a plan. Margaret breaks with Raith and bails, two years or so she has Harry and dies. Eb never says where he saw Malcolm and it's never revealed how Margaret broke away.
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Slight correction, I have a hunch that Eb had soul gazed Malcolm. Because he doesn't say that he was gentle, he says of him, "But a man with a good soullike few I've ever seen."
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Pregnant and having to scoot, she leaves Thomas but not before connecting Thomas and an unborn Harry so that when she throws her death curse it can be powered by them instead of her life force. She goes into deep Winter under Lea's protection and loses a year while Harry comes to term. And leaves Winter via a portal in the Lincoln Monument. She gets the protection for Harry by telling Lea who has the Atheme. Lea sells out Malcolm to the Whites when Harry is six. And just to make it a real pot boiler, Lara does the deed and leaves Malcolm smiling.
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I seem to remember a passage, but I cannot remember the book, where Harry talks about the one photo or one of the few photos he has of him mom, maybe his mom and dad together, and she is happy and very pregnant. If I didn't dream that, I don't think things went down as you theorize.
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The fact that we find Murphys Dad in the Chicago in Between Purgatory squad is an even bigger hint. Captain Murphy insists on no messages from beyond the grave to his daughter. Presumably malcolm has similar rules he has to follow.
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But that might be just a personal thing with Captain Murphy and not a general rule.
--- Quote ---"So." I said "Why heaven I dreamed about you before"
"Because I wasn't allowed to contact you before" my father said easily "not until others had crossed the line"
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It is possible that because Harry is a starborn, he isn't allowed to be overly influenced until he
figures some things out for himself. Malcolm clearly knows what he is because in the same passage he hints that what he and his mother did in conceiving him was unfair, Margaret hints at the same thing.
morriswalters:
I have never read about a photograph, from the timeline.
--- Quote ---26 BSF, some time between August and October – Malcolm Dresden and his heavily-pregnant wife Margaret visit the Lincoln Memorial.
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Eb may have soul gazed him, but the question is, when?
Margaret is a busy little honey bee in her last days. She ditches Papa Raith, wires Thomas as a doomsday device, runs down a husband, gets pregnant, goes to DC, meets Morgan and has nine months of married bliss. All before dying in the delivery room. One presumes that she performed some kind of service either in the former here and now or prior to the events, with Lea. She's a little energizer bunny. A one hundred and seventy year old energizer bunny. I'm trying to connect all of those dots.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on May 27, 2020, 12:21:56 PM ---I have never read about a photograph, from the timeline.Eb may have soul gazed him, but the question is, when?
Margaret is a busy little honey bee in her last days. She ditches Papa Raith, wires Thomas as a doomsday device, runs down a husband, gets pregnant, goes to DC, meets Morgan and has nine months of married bliss. All before dying in the delivery room. One presumes that she performed some kind of service either in the former here and now or prior to the events, with Lea. She's a little energizer bunny. A one hundred and seventy year old energizer bunny. I'm trying to connect all of those dots.
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Since she was still able to conceive children, apparently 170 years for a wizard isn't that old in vanilla human terms, even if say she was the equivalent of 45 vanilla years. She also spent quite a bit of those years in the Nevernever, that time may have also affected the physical aging process.
Perhaps when Eb first met Malcolm, which is very plausible, after all here is this ordinary vanilla human, his daughter falls in love with him and is trying to change her ways. He'd want to know just who in the hell this person was, so yeah, first meeting, soul gaze. It is significant and good evidence that he says it is " as good a soul like few I've ever seen." He doesn't talk man, he talks soul and no doubt Eb has soul gazed and seen a lot of souls in his lifetime.
--- Quote ---I have never read about a photograph, from the timeline.
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I am thinking it was Changes after his apartment burned, that Harry talks about the photo. But he
talks about a photo of them in Washington D.C. and she is pregnant and happy.
--- Quote ---Margaret is a busy little honey bee in her last days. She ditches Papa Raith, wires Thomas as a doomsday device, runs down a husband, gets pregnant, goes to DC, meets Morgan and has nine months of married bliss. All before dying in the delivery room. One presumes that she performed some kind of service either in the former here and now or prior to the events, with Lea. She's a little energizer bunny. A one hundred and seventy year old energizer bunny. I'm trying to connect all of those dots.
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One doesn't "run down a husband," that implies something of convenience, cold and calculated. Eb in Blood Rites is very clear on that, she fell in love with a vanilla mortal of no consequences except
he had a very good soul, that influence changed her. I'm thinking the changes were significant before she ran into Morgan, and that is why he spared her in the first place.
Here is the order I think things happened..
1] Margaret meets Malcolm, where or why, unknown, she instantly falls in love with him. Now
was that the result of an inadvertent soul gaze? Who knows, but meeting him changes her perception about humanity. She begins to think it might be worth saving after all. She becomes a better person for Malcolm, and he falls in love with her. This gives her the strength to leave Raith and her son, little Thomas. Why leave her baby? Perhaps she felt he was lost to the Hunger at some point, or if she took him Raith would never leave them alone.
2] She introduces him to her father, who also soul gazes him. Tells her what he sees, very much the same as what she sees, then she begins to form her plan. Somehow I doubt that she let Eb in on it, does Eb even know at this point that Harry is a star child?
3] She is happy with Malcolm which cements her plans, she is worried about Raith though, so she lets the Winter Court in on her plans, a bargain is struck and Lea is named the godmother of the child that Margaret will conceive. She gets pregnant, her and Malcolm visit D.C., there she meets Morgan, hell, he may be the one that took the photo, and asks him to also watch over the baby..
We know the rest.
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