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Kram:
I’ve been entertaining an idea that could possibly be in the future for Thomas. King of the White Court. Obviously he doesn’t want it. Lara has her hooks in the current King who is no more than a puppet now. But as we’ve seen with the Winter Ladies, nothing opens up candidacy like an unexpected vacancy. Thoughts:
Lara gained power smoothly, but also is in a fragile position as well. She ISNT the Queen, although she operates like it. The instant something happens to the former king she will have to fight hard and fast against many her discover the truth. She has time to prepare, but isn’t guaranteed anything if her secret comes out.
Thomas isn’t necessarily portrayed as being able to take Lara on 1v1, but he also is like Harry in that there is power he won’t take for himself because of the grief he knows comes with it (besides, raw power isn’t really what rules the White Court, but being savvy. Thomas’s ability to protect himself and hold himself somewhat apart from the WC is a good demonstration, and he also has innate power). Imagine Lara is gone - who could possibly sit on the throne in the WC that wouldn’t be a disaster? It would be almost Godfather-like, a prodigal son inevitably sucked into the headship of corruption. It’s the worst thing that could happen to him aside from taking away Justine, being King of Monsters, which makes me think it might happen. So many of Harry’s companions including Harry himself have found themselves fighting the good fight from ground they thought of as bad after all.

This is my first crack theory post I think. I haven’t engaged in this site much but with the new books coming I’m on a 5th read-through to get ready for the new books and I’m having thoughts and felt like sharing 😄

Yuillegan:
Hey Kram, great theory!

There isn't anything to support or discredit it which makes it a perfect crack theory  ;D

I don't think Lara (or any other) would take that option lying down though. It is speculated by Ebenezer that Lord Raith became the White King partly due to his magical immunity. Thomas also talks about Lord Raith's other abilities (such as his Kiss of Death move) and his library of forbidden knowledge.

Thomas doesn't have any of that. Thomas also doesn't feed heavily, which means he also has only a half-tank of gas at any time. We have never seen Thomas pull off any special moves or powers, he had faint sorcerer abilities (although I suspect with training he could improve to be a serious threat - he is also Maggie's son). We also haven't seen Thomas show any real political nous or leverage - both things he would need to run the White Court effectively.

If an opening comes due to the death of Lord Raith, I think Lara would try and take it for herself and openly rule.

Thomas would only get the job if she needed another puppet or if he gained a serious power up.

Despite all that I like your theory just for the fact it would make Thomas's life harder, and make his and Harry's relationship more strained. It would be very Jim.

All this assumes he doesn't die soon too, which is another favourite theory around here.

Thanks for sharing!

g33k:
A very good theory indeed!

Justine says that only Lara's demon is stronger than Thomas' ... so there's that.  Of course, Justine won't be as familiar with Skavis & Malvora (or others (are there any other Whamp houses?  I don't think we know, for certain ... ) ) .

At this point, I think it's pretty much an open secret that Papa Raith is a puppet.  The latest microfiction has Irwin & Connie treating it that way.  I think probably the White Court knows all about it, and they're just keeping up appearances as a "polite fiction" (and because it's amusing) until someone feels ready to try to unseat her.

If Lara falls, Thomas is an "obvious" successor... unless the fall takes a bunch of House Raith credibility with it.


--- Quote from: Yuillegan on May 25, 2020, 09:53:31 PM ---I don't think Lara (or any other) would take that option lying down though. It is speculated by Ebenezer that Lord Raith became the White King partly due to his magical immunity. Thomas also talks about Lord Raith's other abilities (such as his Kiss of Death move) and his library of forbidden knowledge.

Thomas doesn't have any of that...
--- End quote ---

We have a new Major Player coming to town, though.  Lara will almost certainly be at Peace Talks, and if a real heavyweight targets her... she goes down, plain and simple (individual Whamps just aren't that tough); then it's a matter of who takes the White Throne.

I presume Papa Raith's library (which Lara now has (and is using)) would go to the next head of the Raith house (and make it all that much more difficult for a non-Raith to take & keep the throne!) .


To build on your crack theory:

--- Quote ---As we know from the fan-made (but largely "official") trailer, Thomas is jailed by the Svartalves for being an "assassin" -- maybe the victim was Lara???
--- End quote ---

Con:
Nice theory. I suspect a partnership is more likely. With Thomas may be becoming co-emperor so to speak but still nominally for the most part having a tense alliance with Lara. I don't see her giving up power, but I can see her justifying to herself of using Thomas as 'acting boss'so to speak. (Mafia term for having a target boss for feds, while another boss usually the Underboss or a couple of the Capos are really in charge.)

So basically anyone looking to take down House Raith or the White Court would have to publicly attack Thomas as Raith King, before taking on Lara. Thomas gets more power, but Lara gets some protection from direct attacks.

Kram:
Thanks all for the thoughts!! It's fun nerd about this stuff :)

@Yuillegan
I guess a big question that I have that could perhaps help or hurt the theory is “can a WC demon’s power be grown through feeding or other means?” If so then that sort of power could be attainable, even if by time. Justine has already revealed her workaround to keep Thomas fed without hurting anyone too seriously. I consider that a Thomas power up, because he isn’t starved anymore.

I tend to give Thomas more credit in the political side for the subtle things. How he slid into Harry’s life at the right moment. How he disguised himself as a no-threatening screw up when he was really watching (and miserable). But also when Madelyn got too bold, then he slapped her down *hard*, displaying he is not to be trifled with. He is a secret operative for the Oblivion War. Those things I think could make a basis for qualifying on the political side.

I agree that Lara wouldn’t take the challenge lying down. As I think about it, the only way Thomas would be in a position to be King would be if Lara is dead. She's kind of like Marcone. She's not good but it could be worse. But please, not Thomas :(((


@g33k
I agree, it does seem the puppet show is an open secret. If Lara falls I think the only way to save face would be to outmaneuver everyone into keeping the throne. We know you can’t just beat everyone in the head to get respect in WC, although I think being able to doesn’t hurt.

As far as Thomas assassinating Lara, I could only see him attempting that if he knew she had been corrupted by Nemesis (or had super convincing evidence) and he was the only one in a position to have a chance or else [major consequences].

What sort of secrets are in that library anyway tho?
@Con
I see where you are coming from, but I’m not sure how well Thomas and Lara would cooperate that way. They understand each other and they care for one another as family (which is a redeeming quality of Lara). Yet I don’t think Thomas would stand for having Lara’s plans and actions be “publicly” portrayed as his own, much less support most of them behind the scenes.

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