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Dina:
Yeah, wait until the ending and then you tell me how much of it you predicted :)
Oh yes, my country is burning metaphorically too. Lot of job losses, stores closing for ever, things like that. The government is doing with they can, helping the poorer, but that means middle class (in general) is doing quite poorly. We are a poor country, we simply don't have the money to help everyone, so they choose to help the poorer. It's just not enough. So people is in the streets, protesting and asking that they open everything (we have been slowly opening things, and in all cases, the Covid cases rised). But I prefer jobless than dead, so I want lockdown, I want things close, I want people caring for the others. People is dying, I don't understand how other people don't care. I know you may think I say it because I have a job and I am doing fine, but believe me, I say because I am scared. Terrible scared.
Otlan:
--- Quote from: Dina on October 13, 2020, 09:30:15 PM ---Yeah, wait until the ending and then you tell me how much of it you predicted :)
Oh yes, my country is burning metaphorically too. Lot of job losses, stores closing for ever, things like that. The government is doing with they can, helping the poorer, but that means middle class (in general) is doing quite poorly. We are a poor country, we simply don't have the money to help everyone, so they choose to help the poorer. It's just not enough. So people is in the streets, protesting and asking that they open everything (we have been slowly opening things, and in all cases, the Covid cases rised). But I prefer jobless than dead, so I want lockdown, I want things close, I want people caring for the others. People is dying, I don't understand how other people don't care. I know you may think I say it because I have a job and I am doing fine, but believe me, I say because I am scared. Terrible scared.
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Will do n_n .
And I understand that Dina. I understand people being scared. But your not thinking. What happens when they're are no more jobs? What happens when people can no longer afford food, clothing and housing? What happens when your economy literally implodes? Your country is going to collapse. People are going to starve or be murder for what they have, rioting and looting will run rampant. People will die by the score, and your country will likely never recover.
Now, Picture that on a Global Scale. People want things to reopen, because our very survival depends on it. Cowering in fear will solve nothing. It's worse then doing nothing Dina. The world as we know it, is quite literally standing on the brink of Oblivion. All it's going to take is one little push, and when the Dominoes begin to fall, there will be no stopping it. People know that, and they're afraid.
The people trying to get things open again? They're the ones starting into that gapping maw, though they may not realize it. They're trying to pull the world back from the brink. They're not heros, but they're smart enough to know we're all of us in trouble. Deep trouble.
Dina:
--- Quote from: Otlan on October 13, 2020, 10:45:50 PM ---Will do n_n .
And I understand that Dina. I understand people being scared. But your not thinking. What happens when they're are no more jobs? What happens when people can no longer afford food, clothing and housing? What happens when your economy literally implodes? Your country is going to collapse. People are going to starve or be murder for what they have, rioting and looting will run rampant. People will die by the score, and your country will likely never recover.
Now, Picture that on a Global Scale. People want things to reopen, because our very survival depends on it. Cowering in fear will solve nothing. It's worse then doing nothing Dina. The world as we know it, is quite literally standing on the brink of Oblivion. All it's going to take is one little push, and when the Dominoes begin to fall, there will be no stopping it. People know that, and they're afraid.
The people trying to get things open again? They're the ones starting into that gapping maw, though they may not realize it. They're trying to pull the world back from the brink. They're not heros, but they're smart enough to know we're all of us in trouble. Deep trouble.
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--- Quote ---What happens when they're are no more jobs? What happens when people can no longer afford food, clothing and housing? What happens when your economy literally implodes? Your country is going to collapse. People are going to starve or be murder for what they have, rioting and looting will run rampant. People will die by the score, and your country will likely never recover.
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That is your first World vision talking. That happens every 10 years here. And no, very few people actually starves or is murdered for food. We recover, moderately. Some decades we can even get better than we were the decade before. And never as many people dies as with the Covid, or so awfully, or, the most important, risking so many other people. Cowering in fear solves nothing. What solves, well, everything in this case, is staying at home, and when you get out keep the distance, use masks and wash your hands. Stop doing bbq, gender revealing parties, going out with your friends. Stop going out for a beer. (and in your country, stop complaining and use masks!). Stop going to buy things.
We were doing great with few cases until people began complaining and asking openings and decided not to hear to the government. Now we are the 5 country in the world in cases, with a much smaller population. And it is because people is selfish and don't care for the others. Don't care for their parents, or grandparents, for sick people, for inmunodepressed, for me, for my hubby, for my cousin's mother in law, for my boss wife, for my elder neighbor, for many others.
And what is worse, we have no excuse. We knew what happened in the European Winter. We knew it and we were cocky because things were going well. And you have no excuse either, because you knew what happened in the European Winter and you knew what happened with us. We are a cautionary tale, and apparently you won't listen.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Otlan on October 13, 2020, 10:45:50 PM ---Will do n_n .
And I understand that Dina. I understand people being scared. But your not thinking. What happens when they're are no more jobs? What happens when people can no longer afford food, clothing and housing? What happens when your economy literally implodes? Your country is going to collapse. People are going to starve or be murder for what they have, rioting and looting will run rampant. People will die by the score, and your country will likely never recover.
Now, Picture that on a Global Scale. People want things to reopen, because our very survival depends on it. Cowering in fear will solve nothing. It's worse then doing nothing Dina. The world as we know it, is quite literally standing on the brink of Oblivion. All it's going to take is one little push, and when the Dominoes begin to fall, there will be no stopping it. People know that, and they're afraid.
The people trying to get things open again? They're the ones starting into that gapping maw, though they may not realize it. They're trying to pull the world back from the brink. They're not heros, but they're smart enough to know we're all of us in trouble. Deep trouble.
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Most first world countries are rich enough to prevent at least the worst of it otherwise they just lack the political will to do so. It is just a matter of implementing some safety nets until the worst is over. So no I do not expect mass rioting and civil war unless those governments mishandle things on a scale unheard of until now.
Dina:
Ok, and social commentary aside, how is everyone doing? I've working in a small video I need to do explaining a poster for a workshop (as it will be all virtual). Last week has been fun. I've been watching lectures and things in another scientific meeting hold on France. So it began at 5 a.m. my time (and ended at 6:30, 7:30 or 10:30 depending of the day). It was fun. Monday it was a holiday here (something like Columbus Day) so I took it as free and was lazy.
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