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Regenbogen:
--- Quote from: Doroga's Cousin on September 08, 2020, 03:16:40 AM ---It's always kind of amused me that the different types of post-primary German schools translate as "Middle school" (which is what it's most often called in the US), "real school" and... well, you know. :P
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That's why I didn't translate. 8)
There is no equivalent. Not really. Because the system is different. In my youth "Mittelschule" was called "Hauptschule" (main school), but it is the same. I didn't look it up, but someone told me it was supposed to change the image. And when I was going into fifth grade Realschule started with 6th grade. So everyone except those who went to Gymnasium went to the former Hauptschule and after 5th grade you could go on to Realschule or stay. Realschule got a 5th grade when I was in 8th grade I think. I talked about it with a friend last year who was there when they changed it and remembered the sudden "invasion of babies" LOL, meaning the masses of little 5th graders.
There are other types of school but this would be too complicated to explain and I'm no expert in this. ;)
Now I have to be cruel and wake up everyone. Muahaha! See you.
Dina:
I hope all went well with the first day!!
It is very interesting to know about things in other countries. I am always complicated with k- and things like that and sometimes I even forget what is a sophomore, even when I think I learnt the details here in the forum (thanks to you, DC).
Let's see. In my country we have kindergarten (which is mandatory since 3 years old). At 6, you go to "primaria" which I translate as primary school. Traditionally, primary school has 7 grades. Then you have "secundaria" (secondary school) which could be 5 or 6 years, I will explain later. But in general it was 5. In the 90's we had a reform and primary finished in grade 6, and what was "7th grade" and the 1st and 2nd grade of secondary become grades "7, 8, and 9" in secondary. And 4 and 5 became "1st and second of the EGB, which was an acronym that standed for general basic education. It was a mess, specially because not all the provinces got with it. So, about a decade ago, we were back to the classic: 7 grades of primary, 5 of secondary, unless you were in a special system with 6 years.
What students got 6 secondary grades? Well, many years ago that was for magisterium (people becoming teachers of primary), técnicos (something like Mittelschule, I think), artistic, or those from one of the few schools that were dependent of the university and had a different schedule. All the first allowed to students to have a diploma that allowed them to do certain jobs. Then, magisterium changed (now, it is more professional, and you need to do more study after leaving school). And about those dependent from university...well, before the 80's, there was an exam to allow you to go to public universities. And the students of those schools (which had an extra year, remember) were dispensed from the exam. Then, in the 80's it was established that everyone going to a public university (not to private ones) wouldn't pass a test but they needed to approve a year of a courses that have the purpose of reduce the differences among schools and give everyone a base to go to the university. A couple of classes were mandatory for everyone (one related with citizenship and history of our country, and another related with scientific thinking) and the other were specific of the branch that you wanted to follow. For instance, people wanting to be medicine doctors, dentists, veterinaries, biologists, engineers in agricultural practices, etc, had biology and chemistry. Students of the schools dependent of the university don't do the "general" course, but they have an extra year. So, in time, it is the same. But it is different because it is like an extra year of secondary, at your school, while the other students need to go to other place for its course.
uf, I hope you understood something of all this. I am a product of one of those schools depending from university.
Oh, and years ago we had secondary schools for "commercial" branches and other for the rest. Same years, different curricula. Now it has changed.
Doroga's Cousin:
That's kind of interesting to me. As far as I know, you're pretty much locked into the public school system until you're bare minimum 16, and even then you have to have special permission to drop out. After you finish that you can decide on trade school, university, etc.
Dina:
Going to school is mandatory here (3-17 years old) but if you have money you can go to a private school, which is (usually) better and fancier, with extra classes and things like that. We don't have home schooling except for very few people that really can't leave their home, so the teacher visits them.
Regenbogen:
Here, going to school is mandatory for 9-10 years, starting at the age of 5 or 6 years, depending on the county.
Kindergarten is not mandatory, but most people send their kids there. The pre school year here is mostly happening in the Kindergarten, how they do it depends on the kindergarten. My kids were still in their usual group, but they had a few hours in a seperate room doing pre school stuff. After that the usual kindergarten routine.
In some parts of the country in the pre school year the kids are actually separated from their former groups and become a pre school group. And I have heard of schools that have extra pre school classes, but this is not in Bavaria.
I can't remember as a kid having done any school things in kindergarten. I learned everything directly in school. I don't know when it was called pre school. Or maybe it was, and I didn't notice. I admit, I just wanted to see my friends and play with the cool stuff. I should ask my mother.
Grundschule in Bavaria starts at the age of 6 more or less, and goes 4 years. After that at least until 9th grade Mittelschule, or 10th grade Realschule, or 13th Gymnasium.
By the way, when you go to the Gymnasium and finish the 10th grade, you automatically have a school leaving certificate without ever having an exam. I could have done that, but I thought I wanted to have a real exam, and to finish what I started, because otherwise it would have felt like giving up or cheating. So I continued until grade 13 with exam, though I didn't need it. But I thought, if I didn't like the job, I could still start to study something.
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