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Weird? Pretty much.
Dina:
Fcrate, great to see you!
Sorry about your trees. I agree, pulling down a tree it is very sad. It always upsets me.
Thanks for your wishes for the computer, I loved ir.
Well, there has been a development. Today I did not have to work, because...someone tried to kill our vicepresident. Therefore, the president declared a not-working day so people could manifest in defense of democracy.
The thing is difficult to explain, because our vice president is been accused for some corruption that happened a few years ago, when she was the president. So, for the last days, every time she arrived home at night there were many people waiting for her to show her support and love for her. It had been politically agitated days. But last night in the middle of the supporting people, someone pull the trigger of a gun, but the bullet did not exit the gun. I mean, there was no shot.
Of course, the man was arrested, but so far it is no clear why he did that.
So yes...weird things. But no work for us.
In case you are interested
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/02/cristina-kirchner-argentina-vice-president-man-detained-gun
Fcrate:
This is interesting. I'm wondering though, do you have a real democracy over there? And she was president, then what? Lost the election because of the corruption rumors and became vice president as some sort of deal?
Today the bulldozer knocked down a 25 year old tree in the next street. Was too far for me to see, but I got there and took a few pictures. I'll file another complaint in the city council. Not that it'll be much help...
Dina:
We do have a real democracy, with some suspects of corruption over the judges that come from many years ago and is beyond the political party in power.
But no. She was the president twice in a row (2007-2015). Our laws say that you cannot be reelected twice in a row (that is, you cannot stay in power three mandates without interruption). When she finished her second tenure, there were elections and the party that was opposition at the time won. So we have another president. When that president finished his first mandate, he lost the elections to the current president/vice-president.
As is normal in my country, some people love her and others hate her, with very few greys. One side says she is corrupt and robber. The other thinks that the causes against her are bogus. She has a lot of supporters (more than the president, which is quite mild) and a lot of haters. But in all our history, there were very few cases of someone even hinting to kill a president (and none of someone trying to kill a vice president),
Incidentally, we had an assassination of a Senator, in the Parliament building. That was in 1935, democracy was quite weak at the time. That was a thing deserving a movie, and it was (a movie). A hired hitman entered the building in the middle of a debate and shot a senator (for his left ideas that were risking the right of the more powerful organizations of producers of crops and livestock) but another senator threw himself in the middle. He saved the life of his friend, at the cost of his own life.
Fcrate:
This is fascinating... Someone gunning for the vice president does seem like a democracy thing. Lol. These things never happen here.
Edit: About the judges, it does always seem that there is a group above the law, doesn't it? But judges are workers, usually. Who do they work for?
Dina:
The thing is...judges are for life. They do not need to be reelected or anything. So there are many very conservative ones, with connections to the most conservative, economically strong groups. I imagine they just want more power, influence and money.
Again, that never happened here before, and I only remember a couple of situation when someone tried to kill the president but it was stopped really fast. This time was terrible because custody had an epic fail.
I am trying to be as objective as I can about what happened, because real life politics as such are banned in the forum, but I am trying to just state facts.
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