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Mental Toughness

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KlausGerken:
But then, Vantiy is much to easy to "attack" to be worth -0. Which is a given, if we talk Mental Toughness.

whitelaughter:

--- Quote from: KlausGerken on July 15, 2020, 01:07:09 PM ---But then, Vantiy is much to easy to "attack" to be worth -0. Which is a given, if we talk Mental Toughness.

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Oh yes. Anyone has access to it. And it is easy to use it. And use it to cause discomfort. And there are so many options, consider this from Buffy:
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Giles doesn't want to hear it. He gives Cordelia a look like something's
wrong.

Cordelia:  Uhhh, what?

Giles:  Oh! I'm sorry. Um, your hair, uh...

Cordelia:  There's something wrong with my hair? (pulls it behind her
ears)

Giles remains silent, but continues to stare.

Cordelia:  Ohmigod! (quickly leaves)

Giles:  (to himself) Xander was right. It worked like a charm.
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It is easily worth +2: and your player is either going to have a ball or kick himself for taking it.

Mr. Death:
I think, from reading Paranet Papers, the Catch for Mental Toughness works differently than for physical toughness. It's less, "Find this thing and wave it at them," and more, "This is a personal phobia or trauma that will get at their head."

So I don't think something as general as "Vanity" fits. It would have to be something particular and personal to them.

vultur:
Yeah, by the book the Catch is always +0 because it's a highly specific thing that you'd have to know the person quite well to figure out.

Though some of the example Catches - Ancient Mai's being outside of a situation where she can rely on the Council's order, and Warden Chandler's "disheveled appearance" - seem like they would be relatively easy to exploit even "by accident". (E.g. - a lot of maneuvers in combat would mess up Chandler's appearance, even if that wasn't the actual intention.)

I think that might be because the ability to use the extra stress boxes for spellcasting is really good regardless. A wizard is going to be taking mental stress from spellcasting way more often than from actual mental attacks, so the Catch isn't really a "valid rebate" (it would be unbalanced/too powerful if it were worth a rebate).

So I'm not sure that rule really needs to be interpreted to limit the allowable kinds of Catches; from Mai's and Chandler's examples; it's just +0 regardless.

Sanctaphrax:
Perhaps his Toughness could be pierced when his vanity is compromised; that is, when he's humiliated.

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