The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
"Job placement" microfiction
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 25, 2020, 06:22:44 PM ---Evidence is Peabody was messing with wizard minds for a decade or more
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If Peabody had probed Harry's mind first, Harry would have known it.
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That's not evidence that it's anesthesia. Not even a little bit.
Not if the probing was passive.
--- Quote from: Mira on May 25, 2020, 06:22:44 PM ---I doubt that Peabody touched any wizard's mind until he softened up their resistance and awareness first with his magic ink.
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Emphasis added. Exactly. You don't know. You strongly believe. I even agree that Peabody probably used ink on everyone. But we don't know that or how the ink worked. It's silly to pretend that you know one way or the other.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on May 25, 2020, 07:13:43 PM ---That's not evidence that it's anesthesia. Not even a little bit.
Not if the probing was passive.
Emphasis added. Exactly. You don't know. You strongly believe. I even agree that Peabody probably used ink on everyone. But we don't know that or how the ink worked. It's silly to pretend that you know one way or the other.
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Eb, Turn Coat
--- Quote --- "Warden Ramirez and I searched Peabody's chambers thoroughly not twenty minutes ago. A test of the inks he used to attain the signatures of the Senior Council for various authorizations revealed the presence of a number of chemical and alchemical substances that are known to have been used to assist psychic manipulation of their subjects. It is my belief that Peabody has been drugging the ink for the purpose of attempting greater mental influence over the decisions of members of the Senior Council, and that it is entirely possible that he has compromised the free will of younger members of the Council outright."
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Um, the ink contained known substances used to assist in psychic manipulation.. That is pretty good evidence...
--- Quote ---That's not evidence that it's anesthesia. Not even a little bit.
Not if the probing was passive.
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The probing wasn't passive... Consider what he did to Luccio's mind, that wasn't passive. He influenced to the point where all decisions made for the last ten years or more have to be reconsidered, that is hardly passive...
Yeah, if the mind can be dulled to the point where it doesn't know it's being probed, that is anesthesia.. Novocaine is a local anesthesia, one doesn't have to be knocked out. The mind was numbed, defenses lowered so he could probe and influence, I'd call that good evidence of anesthesia like properties.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Mira on May 25, 2020, 09:10:40 PM ---Um, the ink contained known substances used to assist in psychic manipulation..
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The probing wasn't passive... Consider what he did to Luccio's mind, that wasn't passive. He influenced to the point where all decisions made for the last ten years or more have to be reconsidered, that is hardly passive...
Yeah, if the mind can be dulled to the point where it doesn't know it's being probed, that is anesthesia.. Novocaine is a local anesthesia, one doesn't have to be knocked out. The mind was numbed, defenses lowered so he could probe and influence, I'd call that good evidence of anesthesia like properties.
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That's evidence that it allows or helps mind manipulation. It doesn't say how it helps. If it numbs the mind, I'd imagine it would be described as similar to the thing we've seen that do that. Mind fogs.
Probing: inquiring closely into something; searching. Probing isn't manipulating.
The reason they don't know their minds were manipulated is because their minds were manipulated. Not necessarily because the manipulation was undetected at the time it was being manipulated.
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