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Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: g33k on May 03, 2020, 08:15:04 AM ---I've wondered if the Archive covers Outsiders...  It's unclear to me if the Oblivion War is exiling beings to the far reaches of the Nevernever... or to the Outside.

I've never seen a WoJ that makes this unambiguously and explicitly clear.

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I think the lack of clarity is intentional.

kbrizzle:
@morriswalters
That’s an interesting notion - that there is no wall but rather a conjunction point where the Outside meets the DV & a Gate was built there.

Still, why a Gate? And the existence of a Gatekeeper implies (extremely restricted) through traffic.

@Yuillegan
Agreed, but my point is why build a Gate at that boundary instead of something as close to impenetrable as possible?

@Dina
That was the only realistic answer I could come up with - the Gates exist because in order for free will to really mean something, the Outside also needs to be a viable choice.

Yuillegan:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on May 04, 2020, 03:08:27 AM ---I think the lack of clarity is intentional.

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I agree.

kbrizzle - I suspect you and Dina are correct in that the Gate exists as part of the whole Choice mechanism. However, the whole thing gets into the Problem of Evil argument...which gets dicey. Presumably until mortals existed there were no Gates however, and so I imagine it something to do with the creation of Man and the end of the Outsider reign.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: kbrizzle on May 04, 2020, 03:23:44 AM ---Agreed, but my point is why build a Gate at that boundary instead of something as close to impenetrable as possible?
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So that Winter's forces can go out and defend the barrier. Recall that the battleground was outside of the Gate. (This is just a guess assuming some theory of the Gate being "built" is correct).

AClone:

--- Quote from: Dina on May 03, 2020, 08:44:34 AM ---Too...much...Star Trek?  :o *tilts head* I don't follow.

But yes, you may be right. I was not arguing about the existence of the Outsiders as a plot device but the "in universe" explanation for the presence of "gates".

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That one is simple. Because if there is a Wall, it is far, far better to be fighting on the far side of it than your own. And your guys have to go to that side to do that fighting.

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