The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
[Spoilers!] First chapter of PT
Mira:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on April 08, 2020, 02:08:10 AM ---As I said, you might be making a distinction where one isn't needed. They are different things, but all bound together. Eating one doesn't mean you're not getting another. Streams, oceans, puddles, rain, tears, ponds, pools, fountains and falls. All are different, all are water.
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Yes, all are water, but they are not the same and the differences do matter. "Water, water, everywhere and not a drop to drink.." You can float on the ocean and die of thirst..
toodeep:
The whole groups in the white court thing isn't well thought out, I'd agree. It is clear he really built it all around the sexual vampires and it really starts to fall apart when applied to the others, but it doesn't matter that much since they are largely kept offscreen.
True love protects one against the Raiths. Supposedly because of the melding of the souls and little of theirs is there to protect you or something. But that really falls apart when applied well. What if you feel true love but your partner doesn't? Why does the love protection have to come from sharing with someone (making love) when pretty obviously "true hope" and "true courage" are (I assume) solo activities? You could argue that Harry has stood up to so many things that should kill him, even when he believed it would kill him that he must have "true courage" and thus should be protected from the Malvora (or Skavis, whichever). Who knows, maybe he is, but the threat to him has almost always been the Raiths, so it doesn't really matter
Mira:
--- Quote from: toodeep on April 08, 2020, 06:32:46 PM ---The whole groups in the white court thing isn't well thought out, I'd agree. It is clear he really built it all around the sexual vampires and it really starts to fall apart when applied to the others, but it doesn't matter that much since they are largely kept offscreen.
True love protects one against the Raiths. Supposedly because of the melding of the souls and little of theirs is there to protect you or something. But that really falls apart when applied well. What if you feel true love but your partner doesn't? Why does the love protection have to come from sharing with someone (making love) when pretty obviously "true hope" and "true courage" are (I assume) solo activities? You could argue that Harry has stood up to so many things that should kill him, even when he believed it would kill him that he must have "true courage" and thus should be protected from the Malvora (or Skavis, whichever). Who knows, maybe he is, but the threat to him has almost always been the Raiths, so it doesn't really matter
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I remember a multi-page debate/argument over whether or not if being the victim of rape would
destroy your protection? Supposedly Justine did away with her protection because she had lesbian sex with another girl. None of that changed the true love she felt for Thomas, but it took away her protection. Nor would her feelings for Thomas be any different if she had decided upon a guy instead.. So does it come down to merely being unfaithful? Harry's true love for Susan protected him for years after she left him, but once he had hooked up with Luccio it was wiped out. However how can it be unfaithfulness when the person has been out of the picture for years?
AClone:
--- Quote from: toodeep on April 08, 2020, 06:32:46 PM ---The whole groups in the white court thing isn't well thought out, I'd agree. It is clear he really built it all around the sexual vampires and it really starts to fall apart when applied to the others, but it doesn't matter that much since they are largely kept offscreen.
True love protects one against the Raiths. Supposedly because of the melding of the souls and little of theirs is there to protect you or something. But that really falls apart when applied well. What if you feel true love but your partner doesn't? Why does the love protection have to come from sharing with someone (making love) when pretty obviously "true hope" and "true courage" are (I assume) solo activities? You could argue that Harry has stood up to so many things that should kill him, even when he believed it would kill him that he must have "true courage" and thus should be protected from the Malvora (or Skavis, whichever). Who knows, maybe he is, but the threat to him has almost always been the Raiths, so it doesn't really matter
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It doesn't "fall apart" I think you're making invalid assumptions. For one, if only one party truly loves the other, then it's not "true love". The person giving love wouldn't be protected, and the one on the receiving end wouldn't be because they aren't attuned to accept it.
And nowhere anywhere in the series (that I've seen) has there been indication that there is any protection from the other two known houses--let alone "true bravery" or "true courage". If there is, it would be up to Jim to present that mechanism. Yoou can't just assume a parallel.
didymos:
--- Quote from: AClone on April 08, 2020, 11:11:49 PM ---And nowhere anywhere in the series (that I've seen) has there been indication that there is any protection from the other two known houses--let alone "true bravery" or "true courage". If there is, it would be up to Jim to present that mechanism. Yoou can't just assume a parallel.
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No one's assuming. Jim has stated that that is the case.
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