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Some curious things in Summer Knight

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g33k:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on March 17, 2020, 02:35:10 PM --- It the location of Chicago over Chicago.  And the home of the Stone Table.
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It only exists (existed) because the Queens made it.

I'm pretty sure the Queens could make London over London, or Krakow over Krakow, or wherever has major Ley-lines... maybe 20 or so places worldwide?  (n.b. the specific towns I mention, and number of places, are my own guesses, wholly pulled out of thin air).

Wherever they make their killing-ground, that's where the Stone Table comes; it suited them to make it over Chicago on that occasion.  On other occasions, it might be other places.
 

Yuillegan:
More -

Lea is infected and has the knife, and says she cannot speak a lie. Going through her interaction with Dresden, the only things of note she says is that he should never let Mab bring him to the Stone Table, and how the Table functions. But something that slips under the radar is that she says outright that she always had his best interests at heart, and leads him to believe the person who pays/paid the price of her help is Harry's mother. However what if she didn't need to exchange a price, and could help for free because Nemesis had freed her from that normal obligation restriction that all Fae have? Can anyone see anything else that she told as truth that if it were a lie, might change a whole lot?

Elaine. She is very shifty because of her betrayal, but she really sounds like Kumori in this book. Also she is implied (Harry outright states it in thought at the end) to be the summoner of the illegal Mind Fog. She tells Harry he can and should walk away, they can't stop the end of the world. She is hardly a motivated Emmisary. Also she uses fire supposedly in this book (which we never see her use again...). She also uses a bit of memory magic (like in her rings). This feels like foreshadowing for memory tricks in Harry's head. There are also several odd references to Egypt in combination with her. She uses Old Egyptian as her words of choice, and is described as using poses like "an old Egyptian sarcophagus" when channeling power. And the mysterious Black Council/Circle do seem to have some strange unexplained connection to Cairo.

Odin/Vadderung. Munnin (or Hugin) makes a cameo at the Mother's cottage. Also Norse and Egyptian Runes (and likely Greek and Roman alphabet, and a few others) are on the Stone Table. There are also several referances to Menhir-type standing stones and Stonehenge. Curiously, it is Winter's symbol carved on the front door, not Summer's. Not sure why that is. Also not sure why Lloyd Slate has the symbol burned into him and Harry doesn't (only his Id seems to wear it).

Mother Winter says "Can you feel it?" to Mother Summer. What she is talking about is not made clear. What can they feel? I think it is Harry's starborn nature, and perhaps his Destroyer nature too. Curiously, Mother Winter identifies herself as the destroyer, the unmaker. Just before giving Harry the Unraveling.

Also they let slip something well known yet I suspect is foreshadowing as well - Dragons hoard power. Perhaps that is an essential part of their job...keeping power until it is needed. Rather like Hades and the Christ Objects.

Yuillegan:
Yeah Chicago-over-Chicago is only called that because of where they made it. They could have used any location. The Stone Table is in Tir Na North, according to Jim.

BA - Just because it is a crossroads doesn't explain why more than half the supernatural world and major events happen there. There is surely more than one crossroads too in any case. Chicago isn't even the biggest shipping or trade city, let alone the biggest major world crossroad. Chicago is fantastic, sure. But none of that explains why everything happens there. It's probably the New York phenomenon (i.e. how every movie and comic etc seem to have major world events happen there). I'd just love a better narrative reason myself.

Lea does benefit from her dealings with Margaret, but I think she has more going on. I think Lea is the purloined letter myself. Hiding in plain sight. I think Lea will have quite a lot to do with how the series wraps up.

I get your point about the Knights. I also think that Jim has changed a few rules since Summer Knight as well, which affect how powerful things are. But mostly, I think that Knights have extra special power beyond the Free Will they carry. They exist to fill a highly specific role, and in that role they are undeniable. Stronger in than the Mothers, in a sense. Just as the Mothers have incredible amounts of Power constrained by tight and complex limits, the Knights have just a little Power but essentially unlimited freedom with which to employ it. But I think that was no accident, I think the Knight were created to create a specific weapon far stronger than anything the Fae could do otherwise. Something stronger than the sum of its parts.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on March 16, 2020, 05:52:10 AM ---1. Maeve moved to Undertown around the same time Harry initiates the Vampire War in Grave Peril. The implication, if subtly, is that this is part of the general weirdness surrounding those events. Aurora moves into Chicago at the same time, on top of the Rothschild hotel. But what if it was AURORA who moved first? That would make more sense, given her involvement in upsetting the natural order and infection by Nemesis. At that stage Maeve was uninfected.

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I think the most logical order of infection was Knife => Lea => Maeve => Aurora. I think Maeve was already infected in summer knight.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Arjan on March 18, 2020, 06:24:14 PM ---I think the most logical order of infection was Knife => Lea => Maeve => Aurora. I think Maeve was already infected in summer knight.

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Her and Aurora both,  with it being more apparent in Aurora than Maeve.  I still think it is possible that Aurora was infected by Elaine, who could be a carrier.

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