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Kincaid microfiction "Goodbye"

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morriswalters:
Of course Lara being Lara, she would create her own cells.  Maybe have someone nonhuman on the payroll to have communications that Ivy can't see.  One might think Vadderung might be a perfect keeper of secrets.  Or maybe Papa Raith had a secure record keeping  system that was blocked from Ivy.

But this is Jim creating rat holes where there need not be any.  The first rule of hiring assassins, never let there be a trail back to you.  What they don't know they can't betray.  But I must admit, whom am I to question his decisions, I live in a condo and Jim lives in a custom built house in Colorado.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Of course Lara being Lara, she would create her own cells.  Maybe have someone nonhuman on the payroll to have communications that Ivy can't see.  One might think Vadderung might be a perfect keeper of secrets.  Or maybe Papa Raith had a secure record keeping  system that was blocked from Ivy.
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If it is written down supposedly the Archive knows, now Ivy might not, but the Archive does.

g33k:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on May 17, 2020, 11:44:59 PM ---Of course Lara being Lara, she would create her own cells.  Maybe have someone nonhuman on the payroll to have communications that Ivy can't see ...
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That's an interesting thought... someone completely nonhuman to Ivy-proof records, because she sees whatever a HUMAN commits in writing.  The question then becomes, how nonhuman does one have to be...?  Mab suggested that Thomas was human enough to be the WK; was she lying deceiving?  If he is "human enough" to be WK, can Ivy see his writings?  What about the Fae?  Jim has said there is a touch of the mortal in every single faerie.  But this is all WAG off of a WAG, speculating based on a speculation...

Jim revealed a LOT of stuff in his intro to that short.

But in the story itself?  Lara got orders from... somewhere... and passed them on to Thomas (via Justine).

I don't think it specified where Lara got her orders.  It may have been directly from Ivy, or there may have been one or more cut-outs in between.

But I don't think the actual in-character writings have ever so much as hinted that any of the Venatori knew their ultimate commander was the Archive; I think none of them realize the Archive is privy to all writing, including digital storage.

And in these days of digital phones... even verbal communications may be captured by the Archive; all except for in-person / un-recorded ones.

morriswalters:
I have no idea.  The point is that the Whites are murderers. Sexier than the Reds,  I mean who wouldn't want to die in bed with a beautiful partner. But murder is murder and rape is rape, and that describes the main branch of the Whites.   The short story seems to be a tonal shift on Jim's part.

However on the issue of neutrality a point is lost. Perhaps Archive's bias is towards non interference, rather than neutrality.  She must know who Cowl is.  And since he is calling in Outsiders  it would seem to be in the interest of it's purpose to kill Cowl, or to reveal him so someone not connected to her could kill him. \shrug/  Anyway.

Mira:

--- Quote ---I have no idea.  The point is that the Whites are murderers. Sexier than the Reds,  I mean who wouldn't want to die in bed with a beautiful partner. But murder is murder and rape is rape, and that describes the main branch of the Whites.   The short story seems to be a tonal shift on Jim's part.

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  Maybe it becomes a matter of your murderers and rapists are my heroic soldiers? :o

--- Quote ---However on the issue of neutrality a point is lost. Perhaps Archive's bias is towards non interference, rather than neutrality.  She must know who Cowl is.  And since he is calling in Outsiders  it would seem to be in the interest of it's purpose to kill Cowl, or to reveal him so someone not connected to her could kill him. \shrug/  Anyway.

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Yeah, I wonder if Jim has worked it out fully as of yet?  Neutral in the sense that the Archive doesn't openly take sides.  Yet supposedly it will alert Lara and Thomas to threats to take out, but not in it's name nor will it openly order it.  The other point is the Archive aside from keeping the written memory of mankind also is the keeper of the memory of the dead..  At some point it decides whether or not to eliminate that memory thus wiping out totally whoever that was.. At least that is how I understand it.   

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