The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Kincaid microfiction "Goodbye"
Mira:
--- Quote from: Avernite on May 01, 2020, 08:59:52 AM ---It also meshes nicely back with Skin Game - because Harry had a Sword hanging out in his apartment, the know-it-all spymaster of the Denarians didn't KNOW what was going on in there.
Talk about scary, for a being who usually can know everything!
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Indeed, and if the wards kept him from knowing about the Sword, why would he then know about the coin and why wouldn't it stay protected?
--- Quote ---Lasciel had no idea that "Lash" existed.
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I find that hard to believe, I think it more that Lasciel couldn't do anything about Lash. And Lash
until the very end in an effort that she'd thought would save Harry as well as herself tried to talk
Harry into taking up the coin. Only at the very last minute when Harry said he'd rather die or go
brain dead than take up the coin did she switch and sacrifice herself.
Arjan:
Anduriel is not continuously listening to Harry, he has other people to watch and other things to do. He has to concentrate on someone to do so. Nic can easily miss something.
morriswalters:
The sword was in an umbrella stand mostly unknown and not talked about and Anduriel can't listen everywhere all the time, at the same time. Not to mention that any White God worth his godhood would not make his sword trackable or findable.
Nic could have brought in troops at any time and burned Michael's house to the ground and killed everybody in it and then taken his sword from his burned dead bullet ridden fingers. From Small Favor onward, when it is established that he knows where Michael lives. But by canon the sword is unbreakable except through a failure of the Knight and possession is meaningless outside of that. This can be inferred by the number of times the Knights have challenged the Denarians and died and the swords haven't been taken. And if the coins are always dangerous to the Knights then it can be no less true that the swords are always dangerous to the Fallen.
In terms of Bonea and her connection to Lasciel, there will always be the possibility that Bonea will betray Harry through a possible connection to Lasciel. This will be determined by the arc Jim created her for. The protections Harry put around the coins in the basement were always meaningless. Lash tells Harry that she can show him how to summon the coin. Which implies that she can't. It has to be him and he could have always dug it up.
Mira:
--- Quote ---The sword was in an umbrella stand mostly unknown and not talked about and Anduriel can't listen everywhere all the time, at the same time. Not to mention that any White God worth his godhood would not make his sword trackable or findable.
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I think it might have been because Harry mentions it more than once. Yet God Harry be custodian of the Sword while the shadow of Lasciel was dancing in his head and temping him constantly.
--- Quote ---Nic could have brought in troops at any time and burned Michael's house to the ground and killed everybody in it and then taken his sword from his burned dead bullet ridden fingers. From Small Favor onward, when it is established that he knows where Michael lives. But by canon the sword is unbreakable except through a failure of the Knight and possession is meaningless outside of that. This can be inferred by the number of times the Knights have challenged the Denarians and died and the swords haven't been taken. And if the coins are always dangerous to the Knights then it can be no less true that the swords are always dangerous to the Fallen.
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Um I believe that Michael's house is guarded by an angel squad. What canon about the Swords? Is it word of Jim because I cannot remember Michael, Sanya, or Shiro making those claims in the novels.
--- Quote ---In terms of Bonea and her connection to Lasciel, there will always be the possibility that Bonea will betray Harry through a possible connection to Lasciel. This will be determined by the arc Jim created her for. The protections Harry put around the coins in the basement were always meaningless. Lash tells Harry that she can show him how to summon the coin. Which implies that she can't. It has to be him and he could have always dug it up.
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Yes, Harry found out they were meaningless when he tried to protect himself with a circle against Uriel in Changes. The very fact that he even attempted to do that says he thought the coin was safe in the basement.. However even though he thought Lash was dead, he still heard the whisper then he dug it up and called Father Forthill.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on May 01, 2020, 05:14:48 PM ---[1]But by canon the sword is unbreakable except through a failure of the Knight and possession is meaningless outside of that. This can be inferred by the number of times the Knights have challenged the Denarians and died and the swords haven't been taken.
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[2]The protections Harry put around the coins in the basement were always meaningless.
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[1]Also they may not even be able to touch them. Susan's hand was zapped when she touched it in Death Masks. This implies some level of protection. We know Lea wasn't able to pick it up unless it was misused.
[2]I'm not sure if they were meaningless. They appeared to stop the whispering in his head during Death Masks. That could have been a feint, or it could have severed some sort of Lasciel-->Dresden connection but not a Dresden-->Lasciel connection.
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