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Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on March 28, 2020, 03:57:25 PM ---That is also true, which is part of my argument that though he called her his sometime apprentice, that wasn't the kind of relationship they had because by Harry's own estimate, her talents were modest at best, ergo she wouldn't be White Council material, i.e. a future full wizard.   So if he told her anything about the White Council, it would be little because there is a lot he was not allowed to say.  And if she really had the kind of close relationship a master/apprentice is, she should have known she could have trusted Harry to help, especially in this case.

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She had enough power to break the laws of magic so not telling her about them and in extension about the white council that maintains them was a grave and dangerous neglect. "She should have known better" is not really an argument we can use here.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Arjan on March 28, 2020, 04:32:57 PM --- She had enough power to break the laws of magic ...
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That doesn't necessarily need any magical mojo at all.  Consider the porno-sorceresses from Blood Rites.

OTOH, it doesn't look to me like she DID break any of the Laws... trying to restrain a dangerous magical creature isn't lawbreaking, and I think that's all we know of ... ?



--- Quote from: Arjan on March 28, 2020, 04:32:57 PM --- ... so not telling her about them and in extension about the white council that maintains them was a grave and dangerous neglect...

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This is another element that I don't know that we know about.

Harry MAY have warned Kim about the WC and the Laws and the Wardens.  Since she wasn't contemplating anything against the Laws, I don't think the topic would have come up.

Did our interior-monologue POV of Harry's thoughts reveal that he hadn't told her about the WC/Laws/Wardens?  If so, I'm gonna have to call THAT an instance of EIW -- or even Jim's oversight -- rather than a sign of Harry's neglect.
 

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: g33k on March 28, 2020, 05:16:25 PM ---Did our interior-monologue POV of Harry's thoughts reveal that he hadn't told her about the WC/Laws/Wardens?  If so, I'm gonna have to call THAT an instance of EIW -- or even Jim's oversight -- rather than a sign of Harry's neglect.

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It's strongly implied. Harry thinks about how the Wardens would kill her for messing around with the circle, I assume because it's related to summoning Outsiders. He doesn't mention this as a reason for not messing with it. In the early books, the WC's existence is very hush hush. This plot point is pretty much dropped later on. Additionally, Kim mentions Harry's the only wizard she's ever heard of.

I'm a strong advocate of the WC publicizing the existence of the Laws and the fact that consequences will be inbound in a credible manner. All they really need to do is get it on the internet next some basic principles of magic like circles.

Mira:

--- Quote ---It's strongly implied. Harry thinks about how the Wardens would kill her for messing around with the circle, I assume because it's related to summoning Outsiders. He doesn't mention this as a reason for not messing with it. In the early books, the WC's existence is very hush hush. This plot point is pretty much dropped later on. Additionally, Kim mentions Harry's the only wizard she's ever heard of.
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Yeah, what he does say is that type of circle was used for summoning really bad assed demons.  Which given Kim's level of both knowledge and skill would be totally irresponsible, and cost her her head to boot even if she did pull it off.   

g33k:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on March 28, 2020, 05:24:23 PM --- It's strongly implied.  Harry thinks about how the Wardens would kill her for messing around with the circle ...
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--- Quote from: Mira on March 28, 2020, 05:35:06 PM --- Yeah, what he does say is that type of circle was used for summoning really bad assed demons ...
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TYbothVM!

So, it didn't even cross his mind.
Gotta call that EIW.

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