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Kincaid microfiction "Goodbye"

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Mira:

--- Quote ---In Kim's case his takeaway might be something like, you can't be a little bit pregnant.  Either go all in or don't involve yourself at all.  The whole metaphor of The Doom Of Damocles is saying that if you are going to do something like take someone under your wing, then do it like your success is defined by theirs.  That you share their fate.

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  Or you go back to your Father Forthill quote..  Harry didn't know what was going on in Kim's head.  She insisted on lying to him about what she was doing,wouldn't tell him anything, almost as soon as she stomped off, Murphy showed up and wanted him because there had a been a gruesome supernatural murder.  He felt he had done the right thing not telling Kim for a number of reasons, and it was the right thing.   Bottom line, Kim was in over her head, the very fact that she had to go to Harry to explain how the circle was made says she was in over her head.  Her deadly mistake was not admitting that fact to herself, her choices, to lie.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on March 18, 2020, 10:34:56 AM ---In Kim's case his takeaway might be something like, you can't be a little bit pregnant.  Either go all in or don't involve yourself at all.

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But that's exactly what he's doing in his travels with the Paranet.

I don't know if the thread is still around, but there was one a while back where I suggested (or agreed with whoever suggested it) that Harry's lesson learned of "limiting information got people hurt or killed" was the wrong lesson because that hasn't ever happened. We went round and round, as we are wont to do, and I think my conclusion was that maybe he did it once, but it was usually someone else withholding information (or shutting him out) that lead to all/most of the trouble.

Storm Front: His client, Murphy
Fool Moon: Kim, Murphy
Grave Peril: His client (Thomas, but not harmful)
Summer Knight: Well, it's expected from faeries, but also Elaine
Death Masks: Withholding of information by "allies" not harmful, but happened
Blood Rites: Thomas
Dead Beat: Harry withholds information from the Council, probably caused harm
Proven Guilty: Molly, obviously
White Night: The "havenots" of the magical community, Thomas (sort of, but understandable), Helen Beckett
Small Favor: "Well, faeries" once again
Turn Coat: Morgan withheld info, but I'm not sure it caused harm
Changes: Susan, obviously
Ghost Story: Uriel
Cold Days: Sarissa, a little bit
Skin Game: Harry (a la Butters), but Nic's listening in

Mira:


   Yeah, Harry gets pounding for supposedly withholding information from Kim.. Excuse me, but it looks like she withheld  a whole boatload of stuff from Harry.  She lied about why she needed to know about the circle and what she wanted it for, that information was pretty vital...  Harry withheld information because he was supposed to under the rules of the Council, also that kind of circle, and what it is used for didn't belong in the hands of amateurs, way too dangerous.  Harry was up front about that..  Kim never came clean with him and died for it.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on March 19, 2020, 03:05:34 AM ---But that's exactly what he's doing in his travels with the Paranet.
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it's about obligation.  Either teach Kim or don't teach her, but don't half teach her.  This is Jim's theory of operation as demonstrated by the Doom Of Damocles.

Mira:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on March 19, 2020, 09:47:12 AM ---it's about obligation.  Either teach Kim or don't teach her, but don't half teach her.  This is Jim's theory of operation as demonstrated by the Doom Of Damocles.

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  He never presented himself as her teacher.  He knew her, they were friends, he answered a question from time to time.   Even if he had, it doesn't absolve her from lying to him..  The lie was her choice, puts it ALL on her head.   To disregard Harry's warnings, her choice, ALL on her head..

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