The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers

Some thoughts on the Circle

<< < (2/3) > >>

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: g33k on March 09, 2020, 06:34:12 PM ---Realistically -- which the Dresden Files admittedly are not! -- I don't think a diverse group could have actively worked together for so long, interacting with cats-paws (of dubious and varying loyalty) and the rest of the supernatural community, and still maintained secrecy.
--- End quote ---
I 'd say such conspiracies can't maintain absolute secrecy. They might be able to maintain security at an operational level. Meaning that "everyone" would know about the CIA, but most people would have no idea what the CIA is doing or even was doing recently (where recently covers at least a few years).

As far as stories I read go, I'd prefer a shadowy conspiracy. It's just more fun, imo.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on March 10, 2020, 12:01:35 AM --- I 'd say such conspiracies can't maintain absolute secrecy. They might be able to maintain security at an operational level. Meaning that "everyone" would know about the CIA, but most people would have no idea what the CIA is doing or even was doing recently (where recently covers at least a few years) ...
--- End quote ---

Agreed; kind of the point of my post.

The inescapable question then -- with no good answer, AFAICT -- is "Why is the White Council in such denial?  Everyone knows there's some sort of OccultCobraCommand running around!  You guys just look like ignorant dweebs by denying it!"

There's surely enough powerful WC wizards NOT on the Senior Council who would know, and therefore the secret couldn't even be "held in confidence" by the SC ...

Unless, of course, it really is a pretty new phenomenon.

didymos:

--- Quote from: g33k on March 10, 2020, 01:36:08 AM ---The inescapable question then -- with no good answer, AFAICT -- is "Why is the White Council in such denial?  Everyone knows there's some sort of OccultCobraCommand running around!  You guys just look like ignorant dweebs by denying it!"

--- End quote ---

Part of it has been explained as the Merlin worrying that people will think the BC looks pretty good, so he doesn't want to officially acknowledge it for fear of people joining up.

g33k:

--- Quote from: didymos on March 10, 2020, 01:54:55 AM ---Part of it has been explained as the Merlin worrying that people will think the BC looks pretty good, so he doesn't want to officially acknowledge it for fear of people joining up.
--- End quote ---

I hadn't seen that, at least not as anything official.  Cite?

I mean... that WOULD be kind of a declaration of war -- "we are the law-breaking (yes, those Laws!) Warlock-friendly Council.  Quit the prissy WC and join us.  We have the best chocolate!" ... The WC would kind of HAVE TO make membership & even attempted membership an auto-kill, not even needing SoulGaze & other investigation:  wanting to join is the same as wanting to pursue black magic, so snicker-snack my Beamish boy!

I can see the argument that a known BC would demonstrate a major failing in the WC's presumptive "Badass in Chief" of wizardry... Proof they were unable to find/stop a big ol' passel o' warlocks from growing up, getting together, and forming a rival Glee Club.  The Merlin may think that would be, itself, a nearly fatal blow to the WC.

But I don't recall any such explanations in canon or in WoJ.

Besides -- as I mentioned, there are just too many powerful WC wizards (NOT on the Senior Council) who would discover/notice/etc a sustained multi-decade BC covert-op.  The Senior Council would have to pre-emptively tell all those wizards "yeah, these jerks.  We're working on it.  Meanwhile, don't tell anyone else... or else!!!"

I just don't see that working out well, either.

So I think there's other issues in play.

didymos:

--- Quote from: g33k on March 10, 2020, 06:45:22 AM ---I hadn't seen that, at least not as anything official.  Cite?

--- End quote ---


--- Quote ---“Well, Hoss,” he said, “maybe Langtry’s worried about the consequences of officially acknowledging the Black Council.”
I felt a little chill glide over the nape of my neck. “He’s worried that if enough people knew that the Black Council was real, they wouldn’t line up to fight them. They’d join.”
“Everyone loves a winner,” Ebenezar said. “And we haven’t been looking too good lately. People are afraid. Cristos is building his influence on it.”

Butcher, Jim. Turn Coat (The Dresden Files, Book 11) (pp. 512-513). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
--- End quote ---

Granted, it's not certain. It's still just a possible explanation.

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page