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Question about the Queens and the Mothers

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Cymbaline:
We know that Mab and Titania are sisters, because in Cold Days, Titania says she hasn't spoken with her sister since before Hastings - Which causes Harry to remark on the epic scale of the dysfunction in that family.


But there's a Mother Summer and a Mother Winter.  If Mab and Titania are sisters, whose daughters are they - Summer's or Winter's?  Or was it neither, and they were adopted somehow?

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Cymbaline on February 17, 2020, 10:58:42 AM ---We know that Mab and Titania are sisters, because in Cold Days, Titania says she hasn't spoken with her sister since before Hastings - Which causes Harry to remark on the epic scale of the dysfunction in that family.


But there's a Mother Summer and a Mother Winter.  If Mab and Titania are sisters, whose daughters are they - Summer's or Winter's?  Or was it neither, and they were adopted somehow?

--- End quote ---
I am pretty sure they are real sisters but they don't have to be. Mab is Molly's mother after all.

didymos:
According to this post, Mab and Titania are twins. And according to this one, Mab was human once (which we also knew from Cold Days).  So therefore, Titania was human once too.  Following from that is that their parents were a couple of humans. Or they were changelings, making one parent fae and the other human. Other than that, we don't know anything about them.

g33k:

--- Quote from: Cymbaline on February 17, 2020, 10:58:42 AM --- ... But there's a Mother Summer and a Mother Winter.  If Mab and Titania are sisters, whose daughters are they - Summer's or Winter's?  Or was it neither, and they were adopted somehow?
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Adopted somehow.

Mab was mortal.  Her Mantle is just that, a Mantle.  If Mab had died in Harry's rage&fear at the end of Cold Days, Molly would have promoted straight to Queen of Winter, not just Winter Lady.

Mother Winter is something different...
Skuld.
Atropos.
She is ancient.

She is where the LadyMantle and QueenMantle originate.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Cymbaline on February 17, 2020, 10:58:42 AM ---But there's a Mother Summer and a Mother Winter.  If Mab and Titania are sisters, whose daughters are they - Summer's or Winter's?  Or was it neither, and they were adopted somehow?

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They were other things before they became the mothers. The gatekeeper calls them the fates and when Harry summoned mother winter in cold days he had some names as well but not the name they shared together.

Immortals do change, just slowly.

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