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new mirror mirror idea
toodeep:
Considering the timeline, I think the options are probably:
1. Whether he starts a war with the red court over Susan, or
2. Whether he runs away with Susan to South America
Personally, I think that 2 makes the most sense because he really does consider it, it is a decision we can really see Harry choosing. The problem is, it makes for a terrible story. He’s gone from Chicago and isn’t there to stop the Fairy court war, to stop Nicodemus from kicking off a huge plague, or to stop Cowl from becoming a God. Those things ravage the world and make it a hellscape and Harry learns he should never have left Chicago? That seems like a poor lesson.
So I think it is choice number 1, he refuses to save Susan because a war would be too deadly. Because of that he loses his moral center and increases in self loathing which allows him to become a bad guy. He probably accepts an offer from Marcone, but eventually turns on him, then accepts a denarian coin, but discovers they don’t play so nice with each other either. Maybe accepts the winter night mantle somewhere in there as well, but isn’t as good at managing it as our Harry. War kicks off where Red Court goes after the council allied with outsiders and the Fomor, who go after the fairie courts. Massive war going on with no good allies and he has taken to summoning other version of himself when danger looms so that they can be killed and he can escape with people thinking he is dead. At the end of the book Harry has to face off against himself and “save him” to be able to get home. Possibly by either making him the winter knight or bringing him into line as winter knight so he can get Mab’s help in getting home.
I don’t see it being a choice about the sword, because that happened earlier than “the end” of the book.
This could all be wrong, it would be a very different book if the Harrys trade places like the Kirks do in Star Trek, but it wasn’t my impression that was how it was going to be written.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 12, 2020, 02:52:34 PM ---My Trek lore is up to snuff. I grew up in a SF deficient world and watched Trek every Sunday at 11 AM for years. However the central deceit is how the event of either saving or letting one character die, completely changes the world, and in the case in point means that Star Fleet and the Federation never comes to pass. Kirk's question is, do I save Edith Keeler and destroy the future, or let her die and put things back as they occurred. It fits very closely the choice Harry makes in the passage I cited.
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Yes, but it is McCoy's choices that had destroyed the future.. If you can consider it a choice, he felt he had no choice, he is a doctor and he was there to push her out of the way of the on coming car. Yes, that was Kirk's dilemma, do the selfish thing for his own short term happiness? Or think of the future of mankind? He had to chose to restore the future he lived. It is different from supposedly Harry's choice because it is a choice he made that has made the present what it is. He supposedly wants to go back and chose differently.. On that level a bit more like IaWL when Jimmy Steward proclaims that everything would be better had he never been born.
So from what little information we have, we know Harry made several choices after the party, which led to several things of consequences in the following books to the present. The biggie now is the rise of the Fomor after the Red Court was wiped out.. I can see things going very badly at the peace talks and as per usual Harry suffering immense guilt and going down the slippery slope of "if only I had.." So in a combo of Mirror Mirror and IaWL, someone is going to wise him up to, "yeah, and if you had, this is the resulting world and it's a hell of a lot worse..." Or not, and Harry does change what he did..
Bad Alias:
@Morris: I think you mean conceit, not deceit. Also, Mirror, Mirror fits Jim's naming convention. He's also mentioned he's going full tilt at it with "evil" goatees and the whole nine yards. But I think Jim's story will be more of a mix of the two TOS episodes and IaWL than predominantly any one of them.
@toodeep: If I recall correctly, the option of running off with Susan isn't addressed until Death Masks.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on February 12, 2020, 07:43:21 PM ---@Morris: I think you mean conceit, not deceit. Also, Mirror, Mirror fits Jim's naming convention. He's also mentioned he's going full tilt at it with "evil" goatees and the whole nine yards. But I think Jim's story will be more of a mix of the two TOS episodes and IaWL than predominantly any one of them.
@toodeep: If I recall correctly, the option of running off with Susan isn't addressed until Death Masks.
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Not trusting Thomas is one option because just at the end of the party when things go to hell, I seem to remember Thomas pushing Susan towards the vamps to save Harry.
As I said, the Mirror Mirror plot line has nothing to do with our Kirk and crew's choices, it was just a transporter accident. Then again, Jim cannot totally borrow the plot.
Bad Alias:
I think not trusting Thomas comes too early, but it's possible. I tend to think the choice revolves around Susan.
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