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Morgan Micro Fiction
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Mira on February 10, 2020, 05:18:38 AM --- I know, that is what rings so false to me in the whole micro story. I can buy that Morgan kept a journal, but I don't buy the timeline of the entry or it's writing. I find it a little hard to believe that Morgan, the warden's warden, would be close enough to Margaret to promise to watch her kid. To begin with, did she know ahead of time that she was going to be killed? Possible.. The only way I can rationalize her asking Morgan and him agreeing was he knew her role as a spy to get information on the Enemy. Was he the only one on the Council that knew about Harry's birth? Goes back to debates we've had before about Eb, he tried to get revenge for Margaret's death, but never followed up on the where his grandson went or what happened to him after his father died. You'd think if any of this was common knowledge, especially about Nemesis that he'd compared notes with Eb, who had after all done a soul gaze with Harry about his fears that he might be infected.
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The story is absolutely neutral with respect to the relationship between Margaret and Morgan. You needn't assume they were close. Nor do you need to assume she was a spy for the Council or anyone else. All you have to assume is that Harry's birth was an intentional act. She set out to produce a Starborn. And then she shopped him to Morgan. Harry is a weapon and Morgan's fear is about who will wield him.
Here are what I consider to be the two key phrases.
--- Quote ---That bastard Justin DuMorne got to him before I could.
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--- Quote ---From then on, we could not be sure that the child was not molded to be a creature of Nemesis.
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The way I read that is, since he knew about Harry in the first place, was that he was waiting for exactly the same reason Justin was, i.e. for Harry to manifest. And in the second case that they didn't fear a nemfection until he disappeared. This also implies that the "we" and Morgan knew the nature of a nemfection. I now assume that the we is the Senior Council.
Mira:
--- Quote ---The story is absolutely neutral with respect to the relationship between Margaret and Morgan. You needn't assume they were close. Nor do you need to assume she was a spy for the Council or anyone else. All you have to assume is that Harry's birth was an intentional act. She set out to produce a Starborn. And then she shopped him to Morgan. Harry is a weapon and Morgan's fear is about who will wield him.
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No, it is not.. If a mother gives a damn about her baby, you are careful as to whom you ask to look out for it. Morgan from the time we first meet him till his death doesn't seem like that kind of guy. Also given what Luccio had said about Margaret, it hard to think that Morgan would think differently about her. Morgan isn't a deep thinker, he takes orders and carries them out. I need a lot more information otherwise none of this is logical.
--- Quote ---The way I read that is, since he knew about Harry in the first place, was that he was waiting for exactly the same reason Justin was, i.e. for Harry to manifest. And in the second case that they didn't fear a nemfection until he disappeared. This also implies that the "we" and Morgan knew the nature of a nemfection. I now assume that the we is the Senior Council.
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Now you are making assumptions.. What do you mean by manifest? The other side of the coin is, Justin kept the kids secret from the Council, but more to the point he kept the Council secret from the kids! Harry had no clue that the Council existed until he was arrested.. Morgan doesn't question why that is.
morriswalters:
I'll point out that Jim has Margaret run and leave Thomas to become a vampire. Not exactly a paragon of motherhood as I define it.
Manifest. Come into his magic.
Obviously Jim is retconning Morgan to pump up interest in Peace Talks. There is a clash with existing canon, where Morgan was a grade A bastard with a God complex. If this was always Jim's plan then he has done what he has always done, to use the first person narrative of Harry to make us look in the wrong direction.
Mira:
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I'll point out that Jim has Margaret run and leave Thomas to become a vampire. Not exactly a paragon of motherhood as I define it.
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True as far as that goes, however we have no idea of how much of a choice she had in the matter. The fact that Thomas doesn't seem to hold a grudge against her for this is perhaps a clue that she
didn't have a huge choice. Lord Raith may have killed him along with her if she had taken him.
--- Quote ---Manifest. Come into his magic.
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Harry came into his talent at the age of ten.. What he got once Justin adopted him he got training..
So if the infection supposedly showed itself or not when his magic showed up, there is no debate..
--- Quote ---The way I read that is, since he knew about Harry in the first place, was that he was waiting for exactly the same reason Justin was, i.e. for Harry to manifest. And in the second case that they didn't fear a nemfection until he disappeared. This also implies that the "we" and Morgan knew the nature of a nemfection. I now assume that the we is the Senior Council.
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I seriously doubt that Morgan couldn't track Harry once Justin adopted him. The wardens were jolly on the spot when he killed Justin.. So they knew where Justin lived, I presume he may have even gotten retirement pay, if they knew that they had to have known about Harry and Elaine..
toodeep:
Others have raised as part of this thread about how winter, and really everyone, has been "forging" Harry to be able to deal with temptation and be strong willed. It made me think about what we learned about winter, "you are always vulnerable to yourself." What if, to do what Harry needs to do, Harry needs to be infected with Nemesis at the end, and overcome it? Essentially, become Nfected so that he then has some connection with Nemesis everywhere (rather than just the Nfected shell in front of him) and then use that connection and his starborne nature and his forged will, to order Nemesis out of reality.
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