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Morgan Micro Fiction
morriswalters:
Why would Margaret contact Morgan? The only thing that makes any sense to me comes from how Jim has positioned Morgan. As absolutely uncorruptable. What would that imply?
--- Quote ---Not that I can think of a reason why Molly would be so valuable back then as to be worth that much effort of course, but hey, I'm half asleep, this is probably a stupid idea.
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(click to show/hide)Someone who was suspicious might say that Molly's role at Arctis Tor was similar to a fisherman's worm. Wiggle wiggle. Father Carpenter offers up one explanation that has a certain amount of sense attached to it, but no one seems to care for it.
--- Quote ---“Only that it is entirely possible, Harry Dresden, that this entire affair, beginning to end, is meant to protect you. That when I went to the aid of Luccio and her trainees, I did so not to free Molly, but to prevent you from coming to blows with the Council. That her position as your new apprentice had less to do with protecting her than it did protecting you?”
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The Donner has something pithy to say about time traveling Harry and The Basement Mystery.
--- Quote from: The Donner, in Cold Days ---If one wishes to alter the course of history, it's a far simpler matter to attempt to shape the future.
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Which really doesn't make sense unless you can see possible outcomes before they become real outcomes. Who was it who could do that?
--- Quote ---Calculation and thought flickered through those green eyes, faster than I could follow. "Ah, yes. I see," Mother Summer said, "So many new futures unwinding."
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Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 22, 2020, 12:42:17 AM ---The connection to Journal is in the mechanism used to find Molly by the antagonist. Like I said, 9 books later all we got are WAGS. Nobody can speak definitively about why it worked the way it did. And the most interesting question in PG is not who fixed LC, but why did Jim break it in the first place. (click to show/hide)You know more than you think you know. Harry tells you a lot at the end. But given that he is so unreliable you don't believe him.Both are true if you consider it. You pick up another data point in Cold Days when you find out what Rashid does and who he is allied with. Given that and looking back you should be able to guess what Mab accomplished. Mab quits speaking in the next book. Small Favor. And in Cold Days Jim tells you why. Connect the dots. But this is just my WAG.
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Based on Mab's "desert fox" comment in Summer Knight, I think she doesn't know what Rashid is up to all the time (maybe most of the time) but enjoys trying to figure it out.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 22, 2020, 02:55:56 PM ---Why would Margaret contact Morgan? The only thing that makes any sense to me comes from how Jim has positioned Morgan. As absolutely uncorruptable. What would that imply? (click to show/hide)Someone who was suspicious might say that Molly's role at Arctis Tor was similar to a fisherman's worm. Wiggle wiggle. Father Carpenter offers up one explanation that has a certain amount of sense attached to it, but no one seems to care for it. The Donner has something pithy to say about time traveling Harry and The Basement Mystery. Which really doesn't make sense unless you can see possible outcomes before they become real outcomes. Who was it who could do that?
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Rashid also has some ability to see possible futures.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on February 25, 2020, 03:59:07 PM ---Based on Mab's "desert fox" comment in Summer Knight, I think she doesn't know what Rashid is up to all the time (maybe most of the time) but enjoys trying to figure it out.
Rashid also has some ability to see possible futures.
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Mab does what Anduriel does, with the addition of video. Rashid is only a step behind her. It's a wonder Harry doesn't feel breathing on his neck when he takes a leak. However in terms of Time, at least in this case, it's a probabilistic look at time. Possible futures rather than absolute ones. Things that might be. What that Desert Fox tells you more than anything else, is that Mab knows him well enough to give him an affectionate nickname.
--- Quote from: forumghost on February 22, 2020, 12:47:34 PM ---Random thought I just had, but what if Mab wasn't the target of the attack on Arctus Tor? What if Mab's reasons for having Molly abducted was because the 'hornets nest' that Harry had kicked up had decided to cut their losses in the face of Hurricane Dresden and take her themselves, and Mab just decided to rob them of their prize by 'kidnapping' her away to her Stronghold.
Not that I can think of a reason why Molly would be so valuable back then as to be worth that much effort of course, but hey, I'm half asleep, this is probably a stupid idea.
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The attack at Arctis Tor was designed to do precisely what it did, keep Mab bottled up while events were occurring in Dead Beat. It was a feint. She beat it off and then tried to figure out how and why.
I spoilered this because I'm sure that people are tired of me banging this particular drum.
(click to show/hide)What I don't understand is why people don't see Uriel moving in the background. Molly's story is about Uriel balancing the scales. Mab's story is about sussing out the traitor in Winter. But the overall plot is about keeping Harry from dying in a fight with the Council if Molly is discovered to be a warlock. That's pretty much it in a nutshell. And you're told so in the conclusion by the three wise men. Michael, Harry and Eb.
And just for the hard heads Jim opens book by having a kid with the same skill set as Molly, beheaded for being a Warlock. Molly was set up to get Harry killed trying to keep her from meeting the same fate.
Avernite:
@morris:
Was it just that?
I know Uriel fights one soul at a time too, but what would it have done to the Council? Harry murdered as he stood up for what was right - and even Morgan seems to know it. Morgan who swore to protect Harry. Would even Morgan be able to stand straight when his duties conflict and justice argues against his greater duty? Or would he crack and shatter, before or after Harry's death?
Harry wasn't yet the hero of the young Wardens of Turn Coat/Changes, but he was no doubt close.
And then Ebenezar and his gang are dead if Uriel/TWG doesn't send Michael.
In other words - the deadliest Warden is internally shattered, two more of the scariest wizards in a fight (Eb and Harry) lie dead, and the Wardens who need Morgan's clarity to prevent them doing anything foolish want to avenge Harry. That is 'The White Council is gone' levels of bad.
Saving Harry's soul was the point - but saving the soul of the White Council was, too, even if it was a less roaring success.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Harry wasn't yet the hero of the young Wardens of Turn Coat/Changes, but he was no doubt close.
And then Ebenezar and his gang are dead if Uriel/TWG doesn't send Michael.
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Are you sure? Have to go back but I believe the consensus was that Harry was the hero of the young wardens and the apprentices. I believe you are thinking of Proven Guilty when Michael tells him that it was Harry that was being saved, not Molly.
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