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Harry's use of Black Magic
Melriken:
--- Quote from: Mira on February 10, 2020, 07:57:07 PM ---But supposedly Mab began as a human, Molly, as far as we know is still human..
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Molly uses a cellphone and magic... Molly isn’t (entirely?) human anymore.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Melriken on February 18, 2020, 10:06:29 PM ---Molly uses a cellphone and magic... Molly isn’t (entirely?) human anymore.
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Though I don't think that has been fully explained, because though she is Winter Lady now, she is still a wizard. Come to think of it the apartment she had before she became Winter Lady had hot water and all the stuff that Harry's old place didn't. Now it could be because the Stava elves, sorry about the mangled spelling set it up for her... So it is unclear whether or not she is now human has anything to do with it. Or it could be that yeah, wizards and tech don't mix, but maybe Harry's place was like it was because he enjoyed the nineteenth century gloom..
Bad Alias:
I'm pretty sure Molly's place was like that because the Svartalves are master craftsmen. I have a feeling they get Harry a computer (see Vadderung's computer that doesn't explode). I think they have enough understanding of both magic and technology to build either technology that can stand up to a practitioner's aura or whatever, or they can make some sort of magical equivalent.
--- Quote from: Melriken on February 18, 2020, 10:06:29 PM ---Molly uses a cellphone and magic... Molly isn’t (entirely?) human anymore.
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That's kinda the million dollar question. Faeries don't have souls. Mantels generally overwrite the holder's personality. But not necessarily. So is Molly human? Has her soul been destroyed?
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on February 19, 2020, 02:43:23 AM ---That's kinda the million dollar question. Faeries don't have souls. Mantels generally overwrite the holder's personality. But not necessarily. So is Molly human? Has her soul been destroyed?
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Or it is a meaningless question because it depends on how you define human in a magical world were humans can transform in countless ways with all intermediates.
Biologically she is human. Mab can breed with humans and get fertile offspring. Does a soul make you human? Apparently not if a human can loose it.
So in this case I would say it is not about a definition of human something different groups in the dresdenverse probably can not agree on anyway but it is about acceptance and self identification.
Does she see herself as human?
Do other humans see her as human?
Do non humans see her as human?
If all three is yes then she is human. Otherwise it is debatable.
Bad Alias:
I'd say having a soul is a fundamental requirement for being a human, at least in the DF, at least metaphysically. Perhaps we should use the term mortal instead of human.
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