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Harry's use of Black Magic
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: g33k on February 26, 2020, 05:10:31 PM ---I suspect it takes having an active Warden to do so.
We don't know how long the island operated with no Warden, when or who the last Warden was, or whether that Warden put anyone into the prison.
I suspect -- from that "weary British" voice Harry spoke to briefly at the beginning of Skin Game -- that it was sometime in the late 30's or early 40's: the usage seems to have originated specifically in 1934, based on an earlier (1920's) more mild version that was just a colloquial for "depart".
https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/2018/08/30/piss-off/
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I suspect it takes an active warden with testicles or ovaries made out of stainless steel given the inmates. I'ma gonna have to go with Merlin stuck em in there and called it good.
The English guy ain't English. To be English he would have to first be human. And why would a human be in a jail made for old gods. Being nemfected does not make you Superman. Ask Maeve.
didymos:
--- Quote from: noblehunter on February 26, 2020, 05:47:45 PM ---That was in Nevada, right? I'm tempted to look up to see if there were any tests on potentially significant days with higher than expected yields. I know some tests were more powerful than expected but I'm pretty sure the ones I'm thinking about were in the Pacific.
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Yeah, Nevada:
--- Quote ---“It was the fifties,” he said. “Started in New Mexico. It followed me to Nevada. I lured it onto a government testing site, and stepped across into the Nevernever just before the bomb went off.”
Butcher, Jim. Turn Coat (The Dresden Files, Book 11) (p. 55). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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noblehunter:
--- Quote from: didymos on February 26, 2020, 06:16:49 PM ---Yeah, Nevada:
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Checking Wikipedia, no indications that tests in the 50s in Nevada had higher yields than expected. A few candidates if taking out the nagloshii caused a lower than expected yield. But how big a yield would you need?
g33k:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on February 26, 2020, 06:13:47 PM --- ... The English guy ain't English. To be English he would have to first be human ...
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But he used modern(ish) language, modern(ish) accent, and a vernacular construction that originated in 1934. So he is a relatively-recent arrival to the prison.
Unless you wish to posit that the prisoners can learn such things from an ambient gestalt or "overmind" of some sort... But he spoke of a "stasis" (that Harry was disrupting) which doesn't sound like he would have been learning during that time.
I think this (mid/late 1930's (maybe 1940's (maybe post-WWII?))) is the last time there was a Warden, and this prisoner went in at that time.
morriswalters:
Maybe he time traveled to the past and missed his bus back and borrowed a bed from Merlin with a lock that doesn't unlock until book 21 or so. I think he's Merlin but Jim says no. But Jim talks like Obiwan, and that may only be true in a certain way. Just saying. 8) WAG 10!(read that like it's math)
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